"What If..." Seafire Mk.III, US Navy

[Wrench 9,429]

File Name: "What If..." Seafire Mk.III, US Navy

File Submitter: Wrench

File Submitted: 3 Jan 2008

File Category: Spitfire Mk V

 

What If..." Seafire Mk.IIIC USN mod for SF/WoV/WoE WW2 PTO Installs

 

Re-skin and Ini package to create an "Alternate End User" Seafire 3...

 

This started as sort of a 'joke' skin, while experimenting with the Beta Floatfires, also produced by my Dev A-Team-mates. It sort of took on a life of it's own, so I decieded to go ahead and release it for your enjoyment.

 

It represents US Navy Seafires from VC-4 in the Central/Western Pacific region, had the USN -actually- had them. The skin is purely conjectural, based on the standard 3-tone as used on most all other Navy aircraft.

 

There are 2 ways I've designed for this to be used

 

1) Just use it as another skin for the FAA Seafire. Or,

2) Create a new, nation-specific aircraft for USN usage. All parts, excepting the aircraft LODs and cockpit folder are supplied for you to do this; you'll be transfering files from your original Seafire 3 to create this mod. A new gunsight tga has also been supplied for use. Plus a selection of 'pinups' for the cockpit, as Kesselbrut designed in a space for them (bonus points for IDing all the real life people).

 

 

= =You MUST have the latest Weapons Pak to get the WW2 Weapons and Guns!! ==

 

Full, detailed instructions are included on how to create a 'nation-specific' USN version; PLEASE read them!! The readme also has a short alternative history on the USNs use of the Seafire.

 

Happy Landings!

Wrench

Kevin Stein

 

Click here to download this file

[+Dave 2,318]

Not so what if as you think Kevy Kev......

[Wrench 9,429]

DAMN! If I hadn't seen that pic, I'd be sure you're messing with my head!!

 

My (albeit short and fast) research didn't turn up anything like that. Is there more data available anyhwere??

 

Thanks Dave!!

Can't belive it...here I thought I was gonna BS everybody!!

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+Viggen 516]

DAMN! If I hadn't seen that pic, I'd be sure you're messing with my head!!

 

My (albeit short and fast) research didn't turn up anything like that. Is there more data available anyhwere??

 

Thanks Dave!!

Can't belive it...here I thought I was gonna BS everybody!!

 

Wrench

kevin stein

 

 

Well the real US Spitfires were used by the USAAF in Africa and as bomber escorts early in the war. I do like yours a lot though.

[+Dave 2,318]

Well the real US Spitfires were used by the USAAF in Africa and as bomber escorts early in the war. I do like yours a lot though.

 

Um that is a real US Spitfire used in the Pacific theater however.

 

Kev

 

Next time I am at the USAF Museum I will get the details for you.

[sugarblues 0]

Gents,

 

The picture looks to me to be of a Mk. 11 photo-recce Spitfire; the USAAC used a large number of them in Europe, in addition to PR Mosquito's as well...

 

The USN did have some Seafire (actually Spitfire) time; VCS-7 was part of RN Naval Fighter Wing 3 which was used for Gunfire spotting for the bombardment fleet during the Normandy landings. 3 Wing also included 886 NAS, 885 NAS, 808 NAS, 897 NAS, and RAF Sqn's 26 and 63. They took a heck of a lot of casualties - flying low in the flak on predictable paths over the invasion beaches and just inland... and getting jumped by Allies as well as the Luftwaffe all the time... I believe the aircraft wore standard RAF camo, although there's conflicting reports that some or all of them may have been repainted in the "Temperate Sea Scheme" using Extra Dark Sea Grey and Slate Grey... some a/c they had individual aircraft I.D. numbers painted on the forward fuselage, just about in line with the forward canopy. If you do a search on VCS-7 on the web you should be able to find some photo's...

 

SB

[+Dave 2,318]

Gents,

 

The picture looks to me to be of a Mk. 11 photo-recce Spitfire; the USAAC used a large number of them in Europe, in addition to PR Mosquito's as well...

 

The USN did have some Seafire (actually Spitfire) time; VCS-7 was part of RN Naval Fighter Wing 3 which was used for Gunfire spotting for the bombardment fleet during the Normandy landings. 3 Wing also included 886 NAS, 885 NAS, 808 NAS, 897 NAS, and RAF Sqn's 26 and 63. They took a heck of a lot of casualties - flying low in the flak on predictable paths over the invasion beaches and just inland... and getting jumped by Allies as well as the Luftwaffe all the time... I believe the aircraft wore standard RAF camo, although there's conflicting reports that some or all of them may have been repainted in the "Temperate Sea Scheme" using Extra Dark Sea Grey and Slate Grey... some a/c they had individual aircraft I.D. numbers painted on the forward fuselage, just about in line with the forward canopy. If you do a search on VCS-7 on the web you should be able to find some photo's...

 

SB

 

You are correct sir.

[+Gocad 26]

The USN did have some Seafire (actually Spitfire) time; VCS-7 was part of RN Naval Fighter Wing 3 which was used for Gunfire spotting for the bombardment fleet during the Normandy landings. 3 Wing also included 886 NAS, 885 NAS, 808 NAS, 897 NAS, and RAF Sqn's 26 and 63.

 

But I think that VCS-7 operated the Spitfires only for a brief period of time, before reverting back to their usual mount, the Vought Seagull. And yes, the VCS-7 Spitfires had retained the RAF camo.

 

This webpage has some more info: (Link)

 

Those 'conflicting reports' may refer to some Spitfires lanuched by the USS Wasp in 1942 (I think) thay may have or may not have been painted in Navy colors, but these were still RAF aircraft.

Edited January 4, 2008 by Gocad

[sugarblues 0]

Gocad,

 

Yup - possibly. Let's face it - there's so many question's surrounding most of the Malta Spitfires... I've read articles where they claim the Spitires ferried by USS Wasp were all repainted in Standard USN colours of the time, and others that refute the story... I know an old pilot who was there at the time, and asked him if he ever saw a Spitfire painted in USN colours, and his response was "we were too tired and sick to worry what they looked like, we just fought in'em"...

 

SB

[Wrench 9,429]

The D-Day spotter reminded me, now what you all've mentioned it, there was an atricle in either Flight Journal or Aviation Histroy Magazine about them, a few months ago. I'm pretty sure they were in standard RAF camo; but I'l lhave to dig up the mags to be sure.

 

Strange how a simple what "What If..." for fun bird, reflects back on real history, albeit only in part.

 

Wrench

kevin stein