Far East - Vladivostok

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I have a question as I had an Idea on the way to work this morning, I know an idea in the morning. Anyway I digress a few years ago I did a scenario on the old Janes Fleet Command which was essentially based in the Kuril Islands, Japan and Vladivostok and before anyone says it yeah I know it was covered in Janes Fighter Anthology... Anyway the year set is 1976/7.

 

No real storyline as yet but thats something I can work on I have a couple of ideas there. For example the Soviets start overflights over Japan to get Japan to come over to the Soviet side and something goes wrong (not sure what yet) maybe an airliner gets hit or a Soviet jet has a malfunction and crashes into a village/town you get the idea. Causing the Japanese to respond to defend their territory.

 

Okay what I would or need to know is anyone working on a Map for that area of the world?

 

We have Japanese jets okay F-4EJ

 

We have Carriers to simulate the USS Midway or whichever ship was out there and no I will not be putting Tomcats on the Carrier USS Midway couldn't carry them but Navy Phantoms A-7's A-6's.

 

Also we have enough Mig's running around to last me 3 lifetimes...

 

I have many different ways of running this as in do the Chinese join in and if so on whose side but these are details that can be worked out...

 

I aim primarily to use JASDF JMSDF and US Navy Air Power besides whatever USAF units where there at the time. I have a rough listing of what the Soviets had out ther eat the time. Also the Soviet Navy as well as there are plenty of old style Soviet ships here and a 6inch cruiser of the Baltimore class can double for a Sverdlov class CG.

 

Now besides all that is there a way of providing an Escort for a Jet that is Red and becoming blue departing from a red airbase landing at a blue base (Victor Belenko Style yeah I know he got in without anyone escorting him) and you being launched to provide protection ??? If not that can be skipped...

 

Now this is all theoretical unless someone has a Vladivostock/Japan map that can be used or is in the works as I do not know how to create a Map.

 

If it comes to it I will attempt but will be asking for help a lot. Saying that as I have only modded campaigns for myself and not released any this will take me some time. First the preperation of whats needed, basic storyline and lead up to Day 1 of the war... I would appreciate any help or ideas as I plan to look into this further from the beginning of March (RL in the way)...

[Wrench 9,425]

Big V and some of the surrounding regions are modeled on the Korea map (the version that's in the hangar)... and it's NOT a healthy place to vist. Interlocking/overlapping fields of fire for SAMs ranging from SA-2 to SA-5s ... to say nothing of the radar controlled AAA batteries...

 

not a friendly place

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+EricJ 3,934]

 

 

Now besides all that is there a way of providing an Escort for a Jet that is Red and becoming blue departing from a red airbase landing at a blue base (Victor Belenko Style yeah I know he got in without anyone e

[+EricJ 3,934]

Well.... yes, no, maybe so on the changing of the sides. Kreelin's Mission Designer can turn Red into Blue, or vice versa, regardless of time period. Problem is that as Wrench pointed out, that there's enough SAMs that if you lined them up, you'd be able to walk across the Pacific to California without getting your feet wet, and to include the AAA. So you'd have to start the mission to where it's a need to escort, but not to where as soon as he takes off he's blown out of the sky.

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Thanks as to the SAM's thats part of the reason as in the 1970's / 80's it was one of the most heavily defended areas in the world... need to make it a challenge...

 

Thanks EricJ will scratch that idea as I said was only an idea...

 

As to the SAM's whose scared of them ???... Looks like I will have to take a further look at designing a Map as I was hoping to get Japanese Units involved as most of the scenarios are Western Europe and Mid-East with the odd Vietnam based one....

[Slartibartfast 153]

Big V and some of the surrounding regions are modeled on the Korea map (the version that's in the hangar)... and it's NOT a healthy place to vist. Interlocking/overlapping fields of fire for SAMs ranging from SA-2 to SA-5s ... to say nothing of the radar controlled AAA batteries...

 

not a friendly place

 

Wrench

kevin stein

 

Hi Kevin...

 

The Korea map you are on about is that the one on Combatace ???

[Wrench 9,425]

basically, the same "framework", but completly rebuilt; new tiles, target areas, things everywhere.

 

Still in the works, and won't be ready for long while yet

 

wrench

kevin stein

[+Typhoid 231]

I know that area well.............

 

How do you fit the 50 red airbases onto the map?

 

 

 

Some interesting things come about - You can have multi-sided conflicts with NK, SK, Japan and Soviets all shooting at - each other. And the USN in the middle.

 

or any variation thereof.

 

there are a couple of good Russian cruisers for that scenario already. The Kynda and Sverdlov are both already up. There isn't a good Russian DDG (yet....) for that timeframe but the standard FRAM substituting for some of the older gun DD's would work ok. And something might come out fairly soon for the Soviet DDG.....

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Sounds cool, I've been waiting for someone to make a campaign using the JASDF units. Kind of amazed no one's made a Hokkaido map, thought a Soviet invasion there would be fun.

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Okay have had some more thoughts on this... I have narrowed down the time frame to the 1980's that way I plan to use as I said the JASDF USN and USAF might throw in some Aussie's in their Vark's for the Vark lovers...

 

Would have loved a map to play with on the Kuril Islands... as in the Janes Fighter Anthology setup... but unless I become a map maker in the next 2 months I might have a problem on that as the Kuril Island question has always intrigued me. It would also provide serious gameplay background story. Anyway I will look into creating a map and see what that will take and take it from there...

 

Also a quick question to the Aircraft makers... anyone making an F-1 / T-2 Trainer or failing that a Japanese Skin for the Jaguar as I can mod it to carry radar etc...