Dassault Ouragan

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Hi there,

flyng in SF-2I - at last - something was wrong: no Ouragans.

So I tried the old Pasko's & Colum5's little bird.

Many things to fix but soon the Ouragan was in 6 days war's battles.

 

Sometimes ago I made some basic silver skin for Woi use ... but the Ouragans were not silver in 1967...

 

So I left my Hunters for a while and (with a lot of trouble, because the model has many problems!!!) I made some (7) new, high res (1024x1024) IAF skins

from my temps and original ones.

Here some pics.

 

1967

 

 

 

 

1973

 

 

1956

 

 

 

 

I think to upload a new revamped plane with all the previous skins, too. Waiting a new model I think it will be a good place holder.

 

So I wait Guyran for some help (references) from Israel to finish the job and use (I hope) this little bird in His fantastic, historical missions, too.

 

 

Yours

 

Paulopanz

Edited October 22, 2009 by paulopanz

[Spinners 15,966]

Great work! By chance I was reading about this aircraft tonight and noted that Israel bought it as a stop-gap whilst waiting for their Mystere IV's (having rejected the Mystere II).

 

Did this aircraft have a name in Israeli service?

[Wrench 9,417]

If I'd have known you were doing this, I'd have given you my 1024 templates, that I created for the El Salvadoran version.

 

btw, did you catch the mapping issue on the lower right aileron???

 

Good looking skins! Still requires a little tweeking (FM wise) for 08+ levels, but flys just fine!!

 

wrench

kevin stein

[+paulopanz 2,853]

If I'd have known you were doing this, I'd have given you my 1024 templates, that I created for the El Salvadoran version.

 

btw, did you catch the mapping issue on the lower right aileron???

 

Good looking skins! Still requires a little tweeking (FM wise) for 08+ levels, but flys just fine!!

 

wrench

kevin stein

 

Tanks You very much, Kevin.

I found your temps too late but your aileron fix is already in use from the beginning!

I'll include in the mod your El Salvador skin togheter with Sandesh's IAF skin and old French ones (to upgrade).

SF-2 cockipt open, userlist and new SF-2I time-sorted skins (IDF 1956-1957-1967-1969) already done and working.

Sound added (Spillone104), pilot model serching... (any idea?).

Any help with FM or bouncing on the taxiways (already reduced) will be welcome!

 

Paul

 

Great plane

Edited October 22, 2009 by paulopanz

[Wrench 9,417]

I haven't had time to play with it too much, but I'd look at the spring & damping factors in the nose gear. Maybe up the damping factor to 0.05???

 

Have you had any issues with Ordway's cockpit in SF2/SF2:I??? (haven't gotten SF2I yet -out of money!)

 

I'd forgotten I'd put the templates in FAS version!!

 

Pilot-wise, maybe my IDF50s version?? Should be at my site (maybe!)

 

wrench

kevin stein

Edited October 22, 2009 by Wrench

[+guyran 12]

Hi Paulo,

 

Look for PM

 

From the IAF Museum:

 

 

 

 

Take care,

Guyran

Edited October 22, 2009 by guyran

[+paulopanz 2,853]

I haven't had time to play with it too much, but I'd look at the spring & damping factors in the nose gear. Maybe up the damping factor to 0.05???

 

Have you had any issues with Ordway's cockpit in SF2/SF2:I??? (haven't gotten SF2I yet -out of money!)

 

I'd forgotten I'd put the templates in FAS version!!

 

Pilot-wise, maybe my IDF50s version?? Should be at my site (maybe!)

 

wrench

kevin stein

 

I'll try this. I have changed something to use in Woi but is far from perfect.

 

Ordway's pit needs that old fix as in Shusjake's SF-2 Mig-15:

 

[RangeCounter]

Type=RANGE_INDICATOR

CounterNodeFormat=distance_dig%Remd <--------- change this to: distance_dig%d

MovementType=ANALOG_COUNTER

ValueUnit=NM

 

You are wrong: You put the temps in Your pack in extras folder.

 

Bye

 

Paul

 

Going to your site ...

[+baffmeister 1,203]

 

Any help with FM or bouncing on the taxiways (already reduced) will be welcome!

 

Paul

 

Great plane

 

 

Regarding the "Bouncy Plane" syndrome. I have found a few tricks to tame these aircraft and the current landing gear edits I am using on my WOI install are attached below. The difference in rolling radius on the main landing gear wheels is on purpose and probably required. Haven't flown this plane for awhile put last time I tried it I think it was OK with this mod. I run my Quicker Takeoff mod in my WOI install and it tends to have worse problems than the stock airfields regarding bouncing planes. Regards.

 

// Landing Gears ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[NoseGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=TRUE

DeployTime=6.0

AnimationID=1

DragArea=0.124

HideGearNode=TRUE

ModelNodeName=FrontWheelStrut

ShockAnimationID=5

ShockStroke=0.10//0.40

SpringFactor=2.0//3.0

DampingFactor=1.8//0.3

WheelNodeName=FrontWheel

RollingRadius=0.3

CastoringWheel=TRUE

CastoringNodeName=FrontWheelFork

Steerable=TRUE

MaxSteeringSpeed=41.15

Locking=FALSE

MaxSteeringAngle=45.0

InputName=YAW_CONTROL

ControlRate=1.0

HasBrakes=FALSE

RollingCoefficient=0.05

MaxDeploySpeed=115.75

MaxLoadFactor=5.0

 

[LeftMainGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=TRUE

DeployTime=5.0

AnimationID=1

DragArea=0.278

HideGearNode=TRUE

ModelNodeName=LeftMainGearStrut

ShockAnimationID=6

ShockStroke=0.10//0.30

SpringFactor=4.0//6.0

DampingFactor=3.8//2.0

WheelNodeName=LeftMainWheel

RotationAxis=Y-Axis

RollingRadius=0.352

CastoringWheel=FALSE

HasBrakes=TRUE

BrakingCoefficient=0.75

RollingCoefficient=0.05

MaxDeploySpeed=115.75

MaxLoadFactor=6.0

 

[RightMainGear]

SystemType=LANDING_GEAR

Retractable=TRUE

DeployTime=5.0

AnimationID=1

DragArea=0.278

HideGearNode=TRUE

ModelNodeName=RightMainGearStrut

ShockAnimationID=6

ShockStroke=0.10//0.30

SpringFactor=4.0//6.0

DampingFactor=3.8//2.0

WheelNodeName=RightMainWheel

RotationAxis=Y-Axis

RollingRadius=0.35

CastoringWheel=FALSE

HasBrakes=TRUE

BrakingCoefficient=0.75

RollingCoefficient=0.05

MaxDeploySpeed=115.75

MaxLoadFactor=6.0

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Regarding the "Bouncy Plane" syndrome. I have found a few tricks to tame these aircraft and the current landing gear edits I am using on my WOI install are attached below. The difference in rolling radius on the main landing gear wheels is on purpose and probably required. Haven't flown this plane for awhile put last time I tried it I think it was OK with this mod. I run my Quicker Takeoff mod in my WOI install and it tends to have worse problems than the stock airfields regarding bouncing planes. Regards.

 

 

You are The Man! You solved this ugly issue, I wasn't never able to solve!

 

Thank You very much / Grazie davvero.

 

Paolo

 

The "new" SF-2 Ouragans are near to take off, now.

[+baffmeister 1,203]

You are The Man! You solved this ugly issue, I wasn't never able to solve!

 

Thank You very much / Grazie davvero.

 

Paolo

 

The "new" SF-2 Ouragans are near to take off, now.

 

Happy to be of assistance.

[+paulopanz 2,853]

I know that it's not a perfect model but it's so nice ....

 

 

 

 

 

 

French help needed (serials, squadrons etc.).

 

 

Paul

[+ghostrider883 516]

Awesome stuff Paulo!!!

[PGC 10]

French help needed (serials, squadrons etc.).

 

Somebody talk to me ?

 

Ouragan in the french "Armée de l’Air" service :

From november 1952 to the end of 1957, the 2nd, 4th and 12th "escadres de chasse"

From 1958 to 1960, "l’École de l’Air" in Salon de Provence

From 1956 to 1961, "l’École de Chasse" in Meknès (Morocco)(OCU)

From 1954 to 1956, the "Patrouille de France"

 

For serial and code, a very, very useful link : My linkhttp://www.deltareflex.com/

And for the decals : http://rjcaviationart.googlepages.com/decalarchive

 

I hope to help a little bit...

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Somebody talk to me ?

 

Ouragan in the french "Armée de l’Air" service :

From november 1952 to the end of 1957, the 2nd, 4th and 12th "escadres de chasse"

From 1958 to 1960, "l’École de l’Air" in Salon de Provence

From 1956 to 1961, "l’École de Chasse" in Meknès (Morocco)(OCU)

From 1954 to 1956, the "Patrouille de France"

 

For serial and code, a very, very useful link : My linkhttp://www.deltareflex.com/

And for the decals : http://rjcaviationart.googlepages.com/decalarchive

 

I hope to help a little bit...

 

The plane is uploaded (waiting for approval now ) with a separate '67 campaign to use (my very first goal).

I'ld like to make a French skin pack.I'll take a look.

Your help will be needed.

 

Thanks/merci

 

 

Paolo

 

PS: My question is very basic which is the plane number/letter id and the squadron number/letter?

Edited October 24, 2009 by paulopanz

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Question of the day.

 

To which unit belongs this one? A training one?

 

 

 

French skins incoming .....

 

 

Thank You.

 

Paolo

Edited October 25, 2009 by paulopanz

[PGC 10]

Question of the day.

 

To which unit belongs this one? A training one?

Yep ! "l’École de l’Air" in Salon de Provence

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Yep ! "l’École de l’Air" in Salon de Provence

 

..... as I supposed, but I wanted to be sure!

 

PGC won the contest of the day!!!

 

I will work on this skin, too.

 

 

Paul

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Frenchs are coming ...

 

1/2 EC "Cigogne"

 

2/2 EC "Cote d'or"

 

3/2 EC "Alsace"

 

1/4 EC "Dauphiné"

 

2/4 EC "Lafayette"

 

3/4 EC "Flandre"

 

1/12 EC "Cambresis"

 

2/12 EC "Picardie"

 

I need only the training serials of "l’École de l’Air" in Salon de Provence from PGM to complete the pack.

 

Stay tuned.

 

Paul

Edited October 25, 2009 by paulopanz

[+Crusader 2,050]

great.. much needed visual update for that kite!

[+paulopanz 2,853]

Et voilà l'ècole ... I don't speak French

 

 

 

 

Ouragan V. 1.1 in the line up with new 8 French skins.

 

Stay tuned.

 

 

Paul

[+Crusader 2,050]

yesss.... :ph34r:

[+paulopanz 2,853]

:moil: Uploading now.

 

[+Crusader 2,050]

excellent...

[fougamagister 24]

Man that's awesome

[+paulopanz 2,853]

excellent...

 

Man that's awesome

 

 

Happy You liked my .... French trip.

 

Paul

 

 

 

 

PS skinnig a Fouga Magister'ld be a dream.