Slartibartfast 153 Posted August 18, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11008466 NK Pilot tried to defect and crashed in China... Uncle Kim's happy paradise seems to be not so happy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted August 18, 2010 Uncle Kim's happy paradise seems to be not so happy... Yea, that would be the understatement of the century... FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,318 Posted August 18, 2010 Looks like a may have been a MIG-21? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 2,793 Posted August 18, 2010 The new says a Korean war era jet, but to me is like a MiG-21 variant... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted August 18, 2010 Possibly a Mongol as there are reports it was a two seater... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erwin_Hans 6 Posted August 18, 2010 Possibly a Mongol as there are reports it was a two seater... I heard it is a MiG-21PF/PFM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+allenjb42 4,115 Posted August 18, 2010 Would it have the range to reach Russia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+suhsjake 11 Posted August 18, 2010 Would it have the range to reach Russia? Apparently, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Kulbit80 1,399 Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) I heard that it was Mig-15 but doesn't look like... Edited August 18, 2010 by Kulbit80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,861 Posted August 18, 2010 Would it have the range to reach Russia? Double checked on the map and Russia pretty much borders NK on the Eastern side - so if he was going to russia taking the long route over China seems a strange way to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 18, 2010 Russia isn't as kindly to NK as China is, but I've no idea how they would relatively treat a defector. As for the plane, it might not have been in good enough shape to reach Russia! The other possibilty is it crashed because it was damaged in the escape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShrikeHawk 384 Posted August 19, 2010 I heard it is a MiG-21PF/PFM Easy. It's either a MiG-21MF or PFM. The thick dorsal spine totally gives it away. You can even see the delta main wing. Who are they kidding? Defective, my @ss...The only real question is: who shot it down during the escape? NK or China? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 10,241 Posted August 19, 2010 No MF, such an antenna on the back had only the PF/PFM. It seems to be that it had a big vertical tail, so it is a MiG-21PFM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erwin_Hans 6 Posted August 25, 2010 Easy. It's either a MiG-21MF or PFM. The thick dorsal spine totally gives it away. You can even see the delta main wing. Who are they kidding? Defective, my @ss...The only real question is: who shot it down during the escape? NK or China? Not shot down. And that is not delta wing,that is tail. And NK have no any delta wing fishbeds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted August 25, 2010 Sure looks like MiG-21 buddy Bigger pic here: http://www.fox43.com/news/nationworld/la-fg-north-korean-plane-20100819,0,4708336.story And I pretty much clearly see the shape of delta wing although it's covered in rubble... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShrikeHawk 384 Posted August 25, 2010 Not shot down. And that is not delta wing,that is tail. And NK have no any delta wing fishbeds. Erwin - the vertical surface sticking up is obviously the vertical fin. When I said delta wing, I'm not referring to that. And when I say "delta main wing" I am NOT suggesting Mig-21s have true deltas like Mirages and Delta Daggers. I AM suggesting the main wing is "triangular" which is exactly what the term "delta" means. All Mig-21s AFAIK have a "triangular" main wing and horizontal stabilizers in a "conventional" configuration. If you review Brain32's pic above, the guy in the white hat is at the corner of the "delta main wing". He's almost touching it. The guy in all green is walking along side the port main wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 25, 2010 Both the MiG-21 and A-4 were referred to as "tailed deltas." Others included the Su-9/11, Su-15/21, and Gloster Javelin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erwin_Hans 6 Posted August 26, 2010 Erwin - the vertical surface sticking up is obviously the vertical fin. When I said delta wing, I'm not referring to that. And when I say "delta main wing" I am NOT suggesting Mig-21s have true deltas like Mirages and Delta Daggers. I AM suggesting the main wing is "triangular" which is exactly what the term "delta" means. All Mig-21s AFAIK have a "triangular" main wing and horizontal stabilizers in a "conventional" configuration. If you review Brain32's pic above, the guy in the white hat is at the corner of the "delta main wing". He's almost touching it. The guy in all green is walking along side the port main wing. Sorry,my mistake,something not understand.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShrikeHawk 384 Posted August 26, 2010 Sorry,my mistake,something not understand.... No worries, brother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
