Mirage Factory F-4J Phantom II

[Peugeot205 2,745]

Although the Mirage Factory never made a F-4J of the USN and the USMC ,however , they did both the UK F-4J and the late F-4S which is a modernized version of the F-4J.

 

So,  I modify the Mirage Factory F-4S , I've converted some Raven_claw HD skins for series 1 and  add new ones , two of them made by amariani  , and another one made by me.

 

And this is the result....

 

(The first skin is the one I've made)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The aim of this topic is to get to know what does the comunity thinks about this work , if it makes sense to go ahead with it, if it does not, is someone would like to create some skins or decals etc..

 

 

[NIELS 420]

Don't know much about F-4 antennas and bumps..........Looks great though!

[+Coupi 4,279]

Hello my boy,

 

Really I like your project!

 

Coupi

[Stratos 3,168]

I like it too! Please keep going!

[+Hans Topp 115]

Its nice have the J model, keep going mate!!!!

[+daddyairplanes 8,662]

nice. however if your aim is post 1974, you need the DECM antenea on the intakes. found more commonly in photos on the S, that probably is because most J photos that get attn are Vietnam era shots. but the J continued to fly with the Navy until around 82(VF74 and -103 phinal users) and Marines for two years past that (IIRC VMFA-115, did a Forrestal dep in 83 while another squadron was converting to Toms)

 

might also want to talk to Sundowner, i know he has one and i was working a skin pack (Similar to my F-4N pack) for it but thats not even on a burner right this second

[CowboyTodd41 133]

That VF-213 skin is fantastic!!!

[Peugeot205 2,745]

nice. however if your aim is post 1974, you need the DECM antenea on the intakes. found more commonly in photos on the S, that probably is because most J photos that get attn are Vietnam era shots. but the J continued to fly with the Navy until around 82(VF74 and -103 phinal users) and Marines for two years past that (IIRC VMFA-115, did a Forrestal dep in 83 while another squadron was converting to Toms)

 

might also want to talk to Sundowner, i know he has one and i was working a skin pack (Similar to my F-4N pack) for it but thats not even on a burner right this second

 

My aim are both 66 and 74 versions, the screens are for the 66 version. However as you mention the squadrons etc, I'd like to know if you (or any other) could provide me with information about the squadrons and dates of F-4J users.

[+daddyairplanes 8,662]

Gimme a day or so. Have notes but in a snb note file on my tablet. As you skin only two units that used TPS, and most were in the ovrrall gull gray scheme of the late 70s

[Peugeot205 2,745]

And for today.......

 

 

 

 

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[+daddyairplanes 8,662]

1973        VF 11,31,32,33,74,41,84,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,142,143,154,213
USNGrey        VMFA 212,232,235,3112,333,451

1975         VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,191,194,213
USNGrey     VMFA 115,122,212,232,235,312,333,451

1977        VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,151,154,161,191,194
USNGrey        VMFA  same as above

1978        VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161
overall gloss gull grey

1979        VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161
overall gloss    VMFA 115,122,212,235,312
gull gray

1980        VF11,31,33,74,102,103
VF 11,31 and 103 were overall gull, the others in a toned down grey scheme with some color but not the TPS
        VMFA 115,122,212,235   all in overall gull gray

1981        VF31,33,74,102,103
VF 74 and 103 in TPS Phinal Atlantic Fleet Deployment
        VMFA  same as above

1982        VMFA 115,122,312,115 carrier deployment USS Forrestal AA codes
all in overall gull grey

dont have info on pre 73 due to not being the period i'm usually interested in. i mod for the 70s and 80s when there was the greatest mix of the new and the old. if interested i can pm you my squadronlist ini and breakdown of USN/USMC units to make decalling a little easier. unless you have my F-4Npack then you already have the units in there

 

 

nice work for today!  you posted while i was typing up the above list

Edited November 20, 2014 by daddyairplanes

[snakeman 1]

They look great !

 

Phantoms Phorever !

 

http://www.thephantomshrine.co.uk

[Peugeot205 2,745]

1973        VF 11,31,32,33,74,41,84,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,142,143,154,213

USNGrey        VMFA 212,232,235,3112,333,451

 

1975         VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,191,194,213

USNGrey     VMFA 115,122,212,232,235,312,333,451

 

1977        VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,151,154,161,191,194

USNGrey        VMFA  same as above

 

1978        VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161

overall gloss gull grey

 

1979        VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161

overall gloss    VMFA 115,122,212,235,312

gull gray

 

1980        VF11,31,33,74,102,103

VF 11,31 and 103 were overall gull, the others in a toned down grey scheme with some color but not the TPS

        VMFA 115,122,212,235   all in overall gull gray

 

1981        VF31,33,74,102,103

VF 74 and 103 in TPS Phinal Atlantic Fleet Deployment

        VMFA  same as above

 

1982        VMFA 115,122,312,115 carrier deployment USS Forrestal AA codes

all in overall gull grey

 

dont have info on pre 73 due to not being the period i'm usually interested in. i mod for the 70s and 80s when there was the greatest mix of the new and the old. if interested i can pm you my squadronlist ini and breakdown of USN/USMC units to make decalling a little easier. unless you have my F-4Npack then you already have the units in there

 

 

nice work for today!  you posted while i was typing up the above list

 

I have your F-4N mod. I have the squadron list up to date. Thanks DaddyAirplanes.

 

However, I have a doubt. From 1978 on according to your information the overall plane was painted with gull grey or they changed the the USNgrey by the gull grey. Because most of the pics are from Vietnam era and early 70's

Edited November 20, 2014 by FRPignon

[+daddyairplanes 8,662]

my big folder of pics is at home, will send it to you tonight. as i have been able to tell, the white came out around 78-79.  the Marines were generally the last to update schemes, but Navy worked to reduce visual signature. around 1980, a low viz grey scheme came out and then the TPS in 81-82, though only two squadrons flew the J in that.

 

yes most pics are from the nam era.  wait till you get this folder. broken down by unit, most labeled by year. gathered over the course of a years worth of google image hunting

[Peugeot205 2,745]

Nice. Thanks DaddyAirplanes

 

So the overall gull grey should look like this one:

 

Edited November 20, 2014 by FRPignon

[Peugeot205 2,745]

[Peugeot205 2,745]

Felix and Historical VF-96

 

 

[+Viggen 517]

These Phantoms look awesome!

[Peugeot205 2,745]

OK, I'm almost done with USN skins for the early F-4J , I'm missing these ones:

 

VF-21

VF-121

VF-143

VF-154

 

I'll try to finish them at the end of this week.

[Peugeot205 2,745]

Tomorrow morning , you'll have a surprise in the download section regarding this project.

 

Cheers

 

                        FRPignon

[+daddyairplanes 8,662]

wondered what happened.  looking forward to it!

[Spinners 15,968]

You just can't have enough F-4's - Phantom's Phorever....

[+Coupi 4,279]

I love... the Phantoms!

[Peugeot205 2,745]

Waiting for approval

[dsawan 613]

woohoo! the more the merrier!