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The T-50, not Su-50. In August 2017, the PAK FA (the Pespective aviation Complex for Front-line Aviation), also known as the T-50, received the official serial name of the fifth-generation fighter Su-57. I can also add that this skin is not completely accurate. In this color scheme, the red stars were indicated only by a contour.



Later, the Su-57 got fashionable digital camo (so called "pixel") -



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T-50 was the designation as prototype. In service the plane is called Su-57.

Does anyone know the NATO Code name of this bird?

Edited by Gepard

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2 hours ago, yakarov79 said:

Does NATO even know about it? 

I don’t know if they heard about the PAK FA, but, according to Russian propaganda 'experts', NATO is so afraid of this bird that makes one shit in his pants! :biggrin:  'Cause "there are no analogues in the world!" (c) :lol:

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NATO reporting name is either Frazor or Frazer.  They apparently decided against mass production, so I'm not sure how relevant its name will be, but then who knows what the future holds.

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7 hours ago, Caesar said:

The Russians apparently decided against mass production...

Short answer... MONEY. They have not enough money... :no:

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Hi guys. Here is the TGA file which adds Russian experimental "reduced visibility" insignia for the PAK FA T-50. For those who know what to do with it. :smile:





As far as I know, such "contour" red stars have not been used anywhere else. Most likely, due to the fact that, by and large, when the radar makes it possible to detect the enemy or friendly aircraft long before visual contact, the identification marks loses its importance. Now identification marks are painted only by tradition, so their "reduced visibility" does not matter at all.

The second reason, of course, is that the red stars are a subject of particular pride for the Russians (with a predominance of post-Soviet thinking). The cult of Victory in the Great Patriotic War is practically a religion in modern Russia. Therefore, any attempt to change something is perceived as blasphemy or encroachment on the shrine - symbols of the Great Victory. For example, an attempt to “update” the identification marks of the Russian Air Force in March 2010 by adding a blue border (so that the colors of the badges match the colors of the Russian flag) was met with incomprehension and caused negative emotions. After all, in January 2013, the Soviet red star was returned to its former appearance.


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The insignias are not only tradition. They are necessary, caused by international conventions. Without markings the pilot would not be protected by the convention of Geneva. Thatswhy pilots and soldiers have uniforms. Without uniforms a captured soldier has no protection by convenion of Geneva and can be simply shot as rebel, without problems.

The rememberence of the victory in WW2 is not only a russian thing. A lot of former soviet republics celebrate it. And even in the western states, like UK or France it is a big subject up today. Maybe not as big as in Russia, thats true.

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1 hour ago, Gepard said:

The rememberence of the victory in WW2 is not only a russian thing. A lot of former soviet republics celebrate it. And even in the western states, like UK or France it is a big subject up today. Maybe not as big as in Russia, thats true.

Of course. But nowhere, except for modern Russia, this celebration is not the central event of the year and nowhere acquires the character of a cult and mass insanity.

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