ordway

Wow, looks great ord. Another one I missed...(yeah I know cos I never asked)

 

 

(AWHAT) ?

 

Ah an old fave (the Database)... http://www.acig.info/CMS/ I always make sure to push links on souls.

 

Okay, I finished the skin after a month and a half. It was a real bugger as the meshes began and ended all over the place. I might include it with a complete SAAF Mirage F-1CZ as the mods make it almost a new aircraft compared to the other Mirage factory Mirage F1 versions.

SAAF Mirage F1CZ skin.

Okay, for the SAAF Mirage F1CZ, I got the leaping gazelle insignia sorted out and fixed and the "NO STEP" and "BLY AF" added.

Very nice! Well done.

 

Couple of minor hitches - the Springboks always face inboard or to the fore, and technical markings, for example on the control surfaces, are in Afrikaans or English, not French (admittedly, I can't read them, but they appear to contain three words - NE PAS MARCHER - rather than the two of BLY AF or NO STEP). I can't remember precisely how this was managed. I think it was English port side and Afrikaans starboard side on aircraft with an even-numbered serial, and vice-versa... Don't quote me because I could very probably be wrong. Lloyd might know.

Sweet! Thanks for the info! I'll work on it.

Richard

SAAF Dassault Mirage F1 ( Mirage F1CZ) (No. 213, 3rd squadron) green and brown camo skin almost ready (SFP1). This is a skin of the 1980s SAAF (South African Air Force) Major Johan Rankin at the time of his two confirmed Angolan Mig-21 kills (probably Mig-21MFs).

According to the website ACIG, he may have had more kills (http://www.acig.org/...ticle_193.shtml). Generally, the SAAF Mirage F1s had three months of front line duty before being rotated back south (SAAF fighter pilot Dick Lord in the book Vlamgat). The aircraft were generally kept very clean (although sometimes they were mortared on the ground and suffered AAA damage while in the air- not to mention being exposed to the harsh tropical sun and blowing sand).

The green and brown camo was the standard SAAF Mirage F1CZ camo for most of the bush war. It often had a distinct yellowish/orange hue.

SAAF brown and green Mirage F1 (Mirage F1CZ skin) over Angola landscape.

any word on any SAAF F1 skins? The cockpit is great BTW!

Yes, on the skin. It is creeping along and quite a feat to do due to the meshes which appear and dissapear almost seemingly at random...but this is not a put down of the makers...they did a good job...it just takes extreme trial and error on my part to get the areas to meet. You almost have to work backwards/upside down in a mirror and guess the starting and ending points. The SAAF skin (Rankins), I'm doing, is of the original orangish-tanish/ dark green variety with one Angolan kill marking.

To me both look great!

 

I just can't wait xD

Here is a flight model which was reportedly made with the help of actual former Swedish Saab Draken pilots. It is for Microsoft FS 2004.

http://flightsim.bookmark.se/

For roll characteristics, it shows that the Draken was limited to only about a 90 deg/ second roll rate in almost all flight regimes (a very slow roll rate). It could roll much faster, but limitations meant that it was not faster in actual flight. Basically, if I understand it right, if you rolled faster, it would be fatal to your mission as your external stores would be "jettisoned" as well as perhaps other damage resulting to the airframe could result.

This is represented in the FS 2004 flight model which I downloaded and flew. The Draken would only roll about 90 degress per second in the FS 2004 model and apparently, this is what the actual Draken pilots approved of as the most realistic for a PC flight simulator.

BTW, the bookmark Draken's cockpit is outstanding in my opinion...almost more realistic than photos.

Maybe a trick like that helps for the engine instruments, i.e. placing something in front of them ? (amateur remark, but you never know....)

 

Houdoe,

 

Derk

Yes, that is a good idea. I will try.

The second set of engine instruments is just as important .... Any progress on that ?

Houdoe,

 

Derk

The second instruments are messy. I am trying to find them in the mesh...however, so far it seems to be "both or nothing." as they are both attached together, I think. I'll keep working on it.

I am making fast progress on the seemingly infinite versions' cockpits...the Finnish seem to have at least three separate major versions with and without radar. I have added placards to the crash pad in front of the non- radar version which meant working upside down, inside out and with mirror images on a mesh within a mesh.

You may have to find a 3D modder to make a rod LOD with simple skin, and hang two of them as weapons or bpao's on the external model so they are visible...while the models' nose or fus are not visible. A more advanced step might could be a Draken Canopy LOD -- not cockpit -- to hang on the airplane, with the F-4 cockpit inside.

 

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That's one thing that could be done, make a library of 3d geometric objects of various sizes that can hold a simple skin. That would clutter up the SF-1 Aircraft folder, so maybe its a better idea for THE SF-2, if the new game does "pilot" and "weapon" additions differently.

Good idea. Any takers? Perhaps Derk is already working on this?

[media][/media]

Still like the one without the opaque frames better. Maybe a little darkening of the HUD glass will make you feel less naked

 

Houdoe,

 

Derk

Hi Derk,

If you look at this you tube saab cockpit (simulator) in flight, the two front window frames are extremely prominent to the pilot while in flight and definitely are part of the front view that a pilot has to deal with.

http://wn.com/Saab_J35_Draken

The movie's title is "Saab j35 simulator" 0:49 seconds playing time

I'll probably include both versions with and without frames.

Still like the one without the opaque frames better. Maybe a little darkening of the HUD glass will make you feel less naked

 

Houdoe,

 

Derk

This F4B cockpit is a little better without the frames....but still compared to the actual one below....

But the frames are still there in a real J35 Draken.

Another F4B

Greetings,

I just installed the new SFP1-3.2 patch on an up to date and quite clean installation and I got a crash to desk top. I keep 2 separate installations of Strike Fighters and usually try official updates on the clean one. Anyway, the CTD happens after selecting a single mission and hitting the fly button. I get no loading screen and it goes straight to desk top. Futher investigation revealed my graphics card was not being recognized in the Graphics Options, the Display Device box was blank and so was the Resolution Box.

I also noticed in the Options.ini file that the DisplayWidth, DisplayHeight, and Display Depth were corrupted. Tried a reinstall on the patch and checked the Options.ini file again and it looked OK. Ran the game again and got the same CTD as before. Checked the Options.ini file again and now it was corrupted again. I compared the system files between the two different installs and noticed lots of changes in the file sizes after the 3.2 patch , so a lot of work has been done on this upgrade. In order to get the game up and running I copied the old system folder into the newly patched game and was somewhat surprised when it worked. [This game is quite forgiving in a lot of respects!] So now I have a game patched to about 3.15.

I am wondering if anyone else is having problems with the patch. My system is an Intel 2.4GHZ with an ATI 9600SE. Also, I downloaded the patch twice, once from here and once from Third Wire, and had the same problem with both. Looking forward to some assistence for this issue. Regards, Baffmeister.

To fix a crash to desktop (CTD) when you press the escape key or the ALT-Q key, disable the shaders effects of the water and terrain in the terrain data file. Its probably a problem with Vista, as usual.

Instructions

1) Decompress the terrain file with the.SFP1 cat extractor decompress utility. The terrain file will be called VietnamSEA or equivalent in the terrain folder and will be called a security file.

http://combatace.com...ds&showfile=343

2) Find the terrain xxx.data file. such as GermanyCE.data file in the terrain folder with the decompressed terrain contents you just decompressed.

Replace the following in the data file :

[NormalTextureMaterial]

///// rem causes the CTD UseEffectShader=TRUE

UseEffectShader=False

///// rem EffectShaderName=TerrainEffect.fx

DepthBufferCheck=TRUE

DepthBufferWrite=TRUE

RenderedInOrder=TRUE

AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE

CullMode=CLOCKWISE

LightEnabled=TRUE

SpecularEnabled=FALSE

EmissiveEnabled=FALSE

FogEnabled=TRUE

AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.0000000

ZBufferOffset=0.000000

BlendOp=ONE

NumTextureStages=1

TextureStage[01].TextureName=

TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE

TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE

TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE

TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP

[WaterTextureMaterial]

///////// rem crashes and causes the CTD UseEffectShader=TRUE

UseEffectShader=FALSE

////////// rem EffectShaderName=WaterEffect.fx

DepthBufferCheck=TRUE

DepthBufferWrite=FALSE

RenderedInOrder=TRUE

AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE

CullMode=CLOCKWISE

LightEnabled=TRUE

SpecularEnabled=TRUE

EmissiveEnabled=FALSE

FogEnabled=TRUE

AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

SpecularColor=0.500000,0.500000,0.500000,1.000000

SpecularPower=5.000000

Reflectivity=1.00000

ZBufferOffset=4.000000

BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA

NumTextureStages=2

TextureStage[01].TextureName=

TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE

TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE

TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE

TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE

TextureStage[02].TextureName=

TextureStage[02].MipMap=TRUE

TextureStage[02].FilterEnabled=TRUE

TextureStage[02].ReflectionMapping=TRUE

TextureStage[02].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_BLEND_TEXTURE_ALPHA

TextureStage[02].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE

ordway I dont know if its any use to you or not but I tried the two enteries in the cockpit in in one of the F-4 and got the same

results showing a opaque image of the frame so I tried the F-4ES cockpit and hud update in the Viggen as it dosent have a front

frame and added the two edits and it worked fine with this cockpit

Thanks! Good job. Thanks to both of you and Derk, I now I know how to do it without any frontal frames at all. I am seriously thinking of using just the opaque/see through frames as a compromise as shown in the photo immediately below.. Any thoughts anyone?

It looks like a possibility. It looks different than the F-4 and gives a nod to the coclpit framing as if light is reflecting off the two slim frames.

Versus:

Here is the no frame...it looks a little naked to me.

>

>Tried it out but there seems to be no separate possibility to remove the front frame only, leads to the F16 style thing. Felt rather exposed in a Hawk 127.....

 

Yes, if you look at the outside front cockpit framing from an outside view, it is one clear piece in the front. This does not lend itselft to dropping in a cockpit into the external frame and seeing the two frames of the cockit canopy front. It is just clear.

>

.>Never Enough came up with the thing I forgot (which one of the two items to use) and said it all: use the FrontFrame item only, . AD's trick was originally deveoped for the very early F 16's and indeed later used again for the >MiG 29. It's probably a lot of work to find out how to implement this trick on for instance the F104 pit or some others, but interesting just the same. Lots of single engine jets around with or without radar with one piece >windscreens and (if I remember it correctly), very late in the career of the F4 in the USAF, some of them were tried out with new single piece windscreens too ........

 

>Derk

 

 

Okay by moving the front frame and writing the following in the cockpit.ini, in an early Danish ground attack Draken, I get the following cockpit for the window frames. Comments anyone? To me it doesn't look too good and it looks like something trying to be something else...But is an interesting experiment. Thanks!

 

[MoveCanopyStrut]

Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR

NodeName=FrontFrame

MovementType=POSITION_Y

Set[01].Position=-100

Set[01].Value=0.0

Set[02].Position=-99

Set[02].Value=1.0

 

Thanks, I tried this with your imput. It worked. However, it now has an F-16 view without any cockpit framing whatsoever in any view whatsoever and has a wickedly good F-16 view like you are sitting on the tip of a telephone pole..

I guess if every plane had no cockpit framing shown it might be okay.

Very interesting! Yes please send me all the files you have.

 

Try out this for a start, (only thing is, don't remeber exactly which one of the two additions moves the windscreen frame but it's easy to find out..)

 

http://simhq.net/for...tml#Post1610476

 

I didn't try very hard but never succeeded in pulling the same trick with for instance the F104 pit or maybe the Mirage pit or the F105 one (has nice vertical indicators like the Draken) and it would save you the trouble of removing the instrument set for the second engine.. A classic Western radar equiped single engine pit with a one part windscreen would be a nice addition.......

 

Houdoe

 

Derk

>Great news Ordway, an old wish coming true . Remember there is also the trick to get rid of the windscreen framing (the Draken basically had a single piece screen, I'll >send it to you if you like) and would there be a possibility to get rid of the second set of engine instrruments? The only problem that would remain is the F35 pit of the Danish >Drakens which had no radar, but then only a small number of then were built....

Very interesting! Yes please send me all the files you have.

1) So the Draken had two thin windscreen frames. So how would I replicate this? Any input from anyone is welcome.

2) Are the grey round knobs on the left side of the F4E gunsight imbedded in with the gunsight mesh as a whole? I could not find individual left side knob meshes to eliminate...

3) Does anyone know how to get rid of those extra engine instruments in the F-4E? They seem to be all or nothing.

SFP1 J-35 Draken cockpit candidates WIP based on Gepard's F4E Draklen cockpit. The Draken had the radar high up on the instrument panel, not buried down between the pilot's knees. As Gepard points out, the F4E has this feature.

I am also working a bit on refining the flight model, particularily the roll characteristics based from a computer flight model made with actuall Draken pilots imput.

Actual late model Draken cockpit with tape instruments.

Saab J35J candiate

Mid to late series Saab Draken cockpit

I test WOE's orginal terrain with TE's TexturelistWOE.ini. It works. that means TE has no problem.

So I fix some part of Texturelist of Korean terrain. but It didn't works. Same situation.

 

What should I do...? Plz somebody help me...

You need to read the tutorials (Gepard's) in the help section on the TE.

I am working (have been working on an Angola terrain for 2 years) with the TE and am still learning how to make it work. If you keep at it, you will eventually finish your terrain.

It sounds like (but I may be wrong) that your texture list of the Korean terrain is not complete. It is extremely tricky. If you are missing some tiles or if the Korean texture list is missing even a little, it will not work.

First, may I suggest that if the Korean terrain is based on the WOE terrain, that you start with the WOE terrain just like Gepard suggests in his tutorial (but first add (import) the sea tile or it won't work). Then run the TE. Then start adding Korean tiles one by one, testing it in the TE, saving it in the TE and keep adding Korean tiles one by one until it all works.

Secondly (or maybe firstly), you can email the Korean map authors and request their Korean texture lists and trying that in the TE.

Ordway was busy with a terrain but never finished it.

 

I am back working on the Angola/SW Africa terrain...I just restarted for the fifth time...Dec 2010.

Nice!

 

I'm looking forward to the Bushwars mod, it's a war that has always interested me (I've always been interested in "Forgotten" wars), and I was thoroughly impressed by the ingenuity of SAAF tactics I read in the ACIG article; for anybody who hasn't read it I highly reccommend it.

I've been working hard on the Angolan/Southwest Africa terrain for six months. I just had to start over again last week for the fifth time. It is quite a bear with vast terrain changes over the area covered.

looking good!

 

i find this RL MiG-27K HUD photo... I have found it recently, excuse, that has not shown it earlier.

Nice photos! Do you think you could work them into a working HUD?