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By: Tim West .... Build -A- Plane...You CAN do it!

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WF2

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Sopwith Dolphin with her .... FOUR MACHINE-GUNS .... very nice!

WF2

In a report dated in June of 1917 Manfred von Richthofen wrote the following:

 

" . . . the Sopwith Triplane is the best aircraft the enemy possesses. It climbs better, is more manoeuvrable and does not lose altitude in a bank, is faster and can dive straight down."

 

From the book Fokker Dr.I Triplane: A World War I Legend.

At the time MvR stated this, there was no Dr.1 ... correct? He was seeking a Triplane design of the own.

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Hey OvS, glad to hear it.

Just hope your not bias to any particular side Herr OvS ..... nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

LOL!,

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Hey, party booper .... Its always fun to dream, that's what its all about. The OFF team will do as they seem fit away, but, we can dream and have wants here on the forum too.

Keeps the excitement and hope going. It can just get better .... !

Cheers,

WF2

Fokker D.vIII for me, of course.

I also like the Siemens-Schuckert D.IV too. But I say whatever plane the OFF team does come out with next, I should include one Allied and one Axis in the same release. They should also be matched performance wise and year of service wise too.

Just to be fair to everyone.

Just my opinion,

WF2

Very interesting Poll.

I agree HedgeHog. People build these to keep the engine cost down and to use what they can get fairly reasonable. There are many other factors to, like loss of medicals, inexperience, simplified building, availability of plans, enegines .... on and on.

There are people that are building new rotary engines, just write them a check for $20,000.00 plus and you too can have the WW-1 engine for the plane of your dreams.

"Ooooo" and you will need to remove yourself from a social life for a few years too to build it ..... sorry forgot, the social life thing, we play OFF, never mind.

I say go for it .... keep us updated with photos and progress on your build, we are all pulling for you. Maybe build a two-seater, 1-1/2 Strutter, so you can give us all here rides when your done!

LOL,

WF2

Damn!..WF2... I was hoping this was going to be another Gmax tuitorial!!

It is! Buy the kit and then model all the parts on your computer. Geeeeee! How simple do you want it.

LOL,

WF2

... ya, two-seaters were the work horses of the air service indeed but, there is nothing like a flight group of Gotha's or Handely Page's with all their guns firing at you while you attempt to approach them!

.... and if you think coming up from the bottom of a Gotha is safe, think again!

Bring them all on I say.

Cheers,

WF2

P.S. please finish the D.vIII ...... please.

Good input guy's. I found it interesting regarding the comparison of the two planes. Knowing that each one had its own 15-minutes of glory, the outcome of these two planes dogfighting each other would have been interesting.

Its fascinating that 6-ailerons vs 2, more it better theory, would be a detriment to a planes performance. Anytime one has to add more control input the amount of drag increases lowering airspeed do to frontal surface area in relation to the slipstream.

Q: Do you think if the Sopwith Triplane vs the Fokker Dr.1 were both in service at the same time, that it may have effected the outcome of the air domination?

Cheers,

WF2

Why not train up some of us guys to be modelers?

Its a good idea, but the reality of doing that would take a lot of time away from the OFF team to train people. They have is down to a science form the looks of the models. It takes years to get to that level. Also in order to keep John Q pilot buying OFF it has to be up to par, which means they would have to check everyones work plus, meet all the poly-count and tons of other requirements before being released. It would be easier to recruit a modeler with experience.

Best thing is to give it a try yourself. There are good tutorials on GMax and lots of help in all the forums.

Who nows ..... one day we may just see these planes.

Cheers,

WF2

P.S. ..... girls too!

Here is an interesting statement by Dan San Abbott over on the AeroDrome forum about these two planes. Would you like to read more ....

Recently I visited Chuck Wentworth at Paso Robles to view Javier Arango's new Fok.D.VI. While there I had a conversation with Chuck about the relative performance of the sopwith Tripe and the Fokker DR.I. He said he has flown both machines in Javier's collection and the Sopwith Tripe with it's 6 ailerons cannot turn as well or as fast as the Fokker Triplane with two ailerons. The difference is the Sopwith Tripe has short span, wide ailerons, while the Fokker DR.I has long narrow aileron which are more effective. He further said the Fokker D.VII and the Fok.E.V also have long narrow ailerons and said they were equally effective. The long narrow ailerons produce an excellent role rate which is about twice as fast as the short and wide ailerons.

Chuck compared the Fokker D.VII with the S.E.5a and stated that with Fokker D.VII you could make aileron turns, but with the S.E.5a the ailerons would only produce a yaw until you applied the rudder.

 

He said, "If I was going to war, and I had to choose between the Sopwith Tripe and the Fokker Triplane, without a doubt, I would choose the Fokker Triplane! It is twice the airplane, than the Sopwith Tripe!"

 

While we were talking, I kept thinking of Werner Voss taking 6 S.E.5a machines from 56 Squadron.

 

The ceiling of the Sopwith Tripe was 20500 feet, the ceiling of the Fokker DR.I was, 7000 m,(22960 ft.)

 

Blue skies,

Dan-San

Enjoy,

WF2

So, this brings up a good question ...... are any new planes including ones that have been started but did not make it into the release, being worked on at all? Or are they all on hold waiting for increased sales of BHaH before continuing?

Just wondering.

Cheers,

WF2

Winder's haircut ..... does that count?

LOL!

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Hey you guys! Great to have you back, where have you been?

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I love the new music. It sounds a little " Fly Boyish" to me, but in a good way.

Did Mr. Milne write all the music for BHaH ?

Zundap ... I have Finale 2009 music notation software, comes bundle with "Garritan Personnel Orchestra". Its awesome!

Cheers,

WF2

3) And now something I have noticed since P2. When engaging with EA at high altitudes, the enemy is always diving really really fast towards the ground. Then they level off at 1000 feet. They always dive at full speed vertically then level off. This has happened in every single dogfight I have been in since P2. During the last days of SoH I had made similar reply to a thread saying this, and a couple of other members replied saying that they have noticed the same thing happening. I don't think it is only me experiencing this. Is it fixable?

Just a Q: if the AI plane dives at full speed from altitude, straight down, and levels off ...... would not the AI planes suffer from structural failure as us? I know this all depends on the plane the AI is flying.

Has anyone see this happen?

Curious,

WF2

Hey thanks M. Looks like OFF is off the SOH site altogether. If you click on Over Flander Fields there you get linked to here. "O" -well, appreciate nice thought.

Maybe the OFF team could help?

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Would be great if they could get our medals back too, its okay if they cannot. How about another one for purchasing the DVD?

I love it here.... .

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..... FANTASTIC !

Great job on the new graphics guy's. Its awesome!

WF2

The SOH OFF Forums are still available by direct link:

 

SOH OFF Phase 3 Forum

 

SOH OFF Phase 1&2 Forum

 

Cheers

.... they are totally closed. Cannot post anything.

WF2