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Hello gents', Thought I'd post some speculations and observations on the FM aspects of some things in FE2 and SF2 that I've recently been tinkering with. This might be an interesting post for those who like to follow these technical threads. I was recently installing more aircraft into my small SF2 install - something I wanted to get to last year but had no time - and I decided to install a couple of the late prop aircraft too, particularly the SeaFury and F4U-5 variant of the Corsair. Overall pleased with the handling of the types, I tweaked a few things such as desensitizing the rudder on them, and also giving them slightly heavier aileron feel - since those late model prop aircraft were fairly heavy, about 4500 kg on average. Further testing involved flying and inspection of the [FlightControl] and [Engine] sections...couldn't get much beyond about 500 kph near sea level or at alt. in the types...so I commented out the MaxSpeedSL entry for the FlightControl, and tweaked prop speeds to close to historical, within the 2000 to 3000 rpm range, also pushed up the value for the SLPowerDry entry for the Engine, usually by a noticeable amount, and then tested further. Some of the things I've noticed, in terms of SF2 specifically (but this post is relevant to FE2 too): a) WEP power is not modelled realistically, since you can keep running it without engine damage b) WEP power doesn't give much of a boost, if at all (although I've only tinkered with the SeaFury and Corsair so far) c) a better way of simulating, however simplistic it is, the potential of WEP power, is to manipulate the AltitudeTableData numbers instead (for example, I plugged in values ranging from about 1.05 to 1.35 around the 6000 m alt. band, which should be where the Corsairs benefitted the most from max. throttle) d) after manipulation of the AltitudeTableData, it's best to get rid of the WEP entries entirely, and set up "throttle gradients" instead under the engine sections, such as: ThrottleRate=0.65 IdleThrottle=0.12 CruiseThrottle=0.45 MilThrottle=0.70 MaxThrottle=1.00 The numbers above I've plugged in, for example, for the Corsair. The space between Military throttle and Max throttle would be where "WEP power" would theoretically in this case be engaged, somewhere around the 0.85 mark for the band I've selected above. For this to work somewhat realistically, the player should restrict themselves to about 85% throttle max. except in extreme situations, depending of course on where military and max throttle are set. Also important for this to work is to make sure that the max SL speed under the FlightControl section is left uncapped (commented out) - otherwise artificial barriers are set up that cannot be bypassed by more than about 20-30 kph. Speed caps work beautifully in SF2 for the jet engines, but, at least from my experience, don't work that well with the late prop planes since you can then never hit top max. recorded historical speeds, not even at alt. - and not at SL either. Also noticeable in the example above is that I've increased the throttle rate from the default of about 0.25. Historically, late prop aircraft would have had better acceleration than early jet planes (not better top speeds, but faster acceleration to their own max speed). By the 1960s/70s, jet engines should surpass the props even in acceleration. I then re-tested by dumping the modified Corsair into my FE2 install. In SF2 it can get into the 760s kph, as historical, using the engine and throttle values I've included in my graded throttle settings above, while in FE2 the same tweaks push the top speed into the 880s kph - a difference of about 120 kph for top speeds, across FE2/SF2. This is why it's not a good idea simply to transfer data inis from one of the sims to the other. I'm assuming that the discrepancy in top speeds means that TK went with calculations to give less air resistance in FE2 (maybe FE as well?) - to fit better with the more fragile and maneuverable WWI aircraft types. One thing that remains constant between FE2 and SF2 is that, at least from my observations, the WEP modelling is not very realistic - there was no high alt. band where I could push the top speed beyond, for example, a reasonable top speed that may have been possible at near sea level (such as 500 or 600 kph). Some preliminary conclusions, to be tested further: a) speed caps at sea level should be kept in place in FE2, as done in the data inis in my FM packs, since they fit better with the lower top speeds of the early aircraft anyway, and mach limits should also be kept fairly low (I have them set at 120% of the "top speed" of the WW1 aircraft....this allows for realistic dive speeds that I haven't been able to push beyond about the 460 kph mark even on the late war types such as the SE5a) b) flying late WW2 and early Cold War prop aircraft in FE2 is not recommended, but FE2 may be good for "Golden Age" stuff, as Geezer speculated upon in another thread (can't remember the link for that now), in other words for aircraft that don't have a top speed higher than about 350 or 400 kph c) the difference between top speeds at alt and at sea level are modelled just fine for the jet engines in SF2, since caps on SL speeds, and Alt speeds, work fine for those (have seen this in some Flogger tweaks that I did for my mini-SF2 install); in other words, SF2 respects the wet/dry mach values and alt table entries beautifully for jet-age stuff d) I think that the MaxThrottle value in SF2, for the prop aircraft, could use some more tinkering/testing...I've set it at 1.00, but will try other values of 1.20, 1.50 etc., to see if this creates more realistic differences between regular power and WEP, or some kind of "accordion" effect e) as it stands, I'm enjoying the SeaFuries and Corsairs but only with SL speed uncapped and giving historical top speeds not at alt. but near sea level (this is a compromise of sorts since, at alt, they still make about 600 kph and sometimes a bit more - so I'm not terribly irritated by not attaining 740 kph at 7000 m alt or so, for example, in the SeaFury, as recorded for that plane) f) a couple of pics included below of the AI in SF2 now losing control of their F4U-5 Corsair during a scrap, and doing several back flips (too much throttle applied perhaps?); he then bails out of the otherwise undamaged plane; so, overall, I'm liking the realism of some of the haphazard maneuvers they now make, and also the increased speed at which these late prop fights now happen, even on the deck g) anything that I find of further use in the SF2 data inis, and if relevant to FE2, I will tinker with more to bring even more realism into FE2 (the lockout speed trick implemented for control surfaces in the alternative Morane-Saulnier type N data ini posted under the FM thread for FE2 is an example of things discovered while combing through the SF2 files) Happy flying, Von S

Hello gents,' See pics below for oddities on the early Flogger-A (MiG 23 type S)....occasionally the plane drifts sideways at a 90 degree angle, throwing the cockpit view off...this also happens sometimes in spins/stalls...the only mods I've made to the data inis that come with the early Floggers is copying/pasting of stock CD0 values from SF2 (from the MiG 23 MS export variant)...otherwise it was impossible to push past about Mach 1.2 at alt. I haven't noticed this oddity on later Floggers, only the early ones with the narrower wing (have tried limiting yaw values but doesn't seem to make a difference). The Floggers I'm using are from the big 2-pack MiG install available on CombatAce, by the way, with Stary's enhanced cockpits installed. Comments/suggestions appreciated. Von S

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Can anyone tell me where I can find mirage 3 EL and mirage 5 BA DLCs.

With so many different aircraft in Strike Fighters it is often the case of selecting an aircraft and fudging it around the skies with only vague recollection of how the radar works and how it is supposed to handle because you didn’t have the time to refresh. The Last of the Lightnings is a mod that unusually for SF2 centers mainly on getting familiar with a certain type of aircraft and its systems. You might even term it DCS lite however I can’t imagine seeing any of the aircraft in this mod featuring in that sim in my lifetime. So, what is it about? The Last of the Lightnings (by comrpnt) is a set of scripted single missions (like YAP) that take the player through an RAF Operational Conversion Unit (OCU) training program and is based on the writings of ex Lightning and F-4 pilot Ian Black. This takes place in 1976 and you are flying the English Electric Lightning F.mk6. The what you say? or as FastCargo once stated before being put under court martial by the USAF for blasphemy [or not]. The Lightning was the last fully designed British supersonic fighter to enter service and its only requirement seems to have been performance above everything else [especially fuel]. Strike Fighters 2 comes with all seven of the single seat variants: Lightning F.mk1 Lightning F.mk1A Lightning F.mk2 Lightning F.mk2A Lightning F.mk3 Lightning F.mk6 Lightning F.mk53 Okay if you are wondering where your Lightnings are then you didn’t buy SF2 Expansion Pack 2 did you, in which case you are one of the reasons TK is now doing crappy phone games only………[hey his words] not to make you feel too guilty! Shame really because it comes with some of the best 3D pits Thirdwire ever did, and probably unique as far as combat sims go with the Lightning: The centrepiece of the mod is a pdf guide that must have taken some time to do and is quite detailed in places. So the point of this is that you will be learning to fly the Lightning or at least be better at it. On Hard flight model (~SFM in DCS) it can be tricky to handle so you will be dragged through formation landings, flying, A-A refueling and even learn how to use the radar to properly intercept targets and actually read the radar symbology. Some of this should be useful for other aircraft at least. Install So yes you need SF2E and SF2 Exp 2 to run this minimum. I was running this from a full merged install, of which I created a separate install by copying the game exe file and running that to create a new Mod folder called LastOfTheLightnings for it. Full instructions are on the PDF and is mostly drag and drop with some ini file editing. For the training rounds I created new folders in the weapons folder and not the old-fashioned way recommended. Mods So once up and running I added mods and changed them as I went through the course. Because of the changes that come with the mod I only changed the terrain tiles, runway, and sky using Better Widesky (Cellisky/Orsin). I have also put in mods to give more head movement and darker nights. Up and running Firstly, you go to single mission only and choose the missions using the date code e.g. [760522] then ignore the text the game puts in because it is wrong [only go by the date code to get the correct mission per the guide]. Check your loadout - obviously the training rounds should be there otherwise don’t touch or change anything just look at the map and then launch. So you start either on the runway or the taxi way on these missions. At the beginning the tricky parts are landing on formation with your Qualified Flying instructor (QFI) and playing chase the QFI. Especially at night you need to be on your feet to keep track of the guy initially! You are then given instruction on how A-A refueling should be done, e.g. fly in formation on the port side before refueling then fly formation on the starboard wing. You then have to try it at night and in clouds. Yes the amazing Ravenclaw Bucc is in this pack. The Intercept phase is interesting and you will be going after low and high targets before flying in formation with them, so you will need to learn what those dots and lines mean After basic intercepts you get to do ACM against the pesky aggressor F-4Ms, although don’t pay too much attention to the instruction for this because they will spam those AIM-7s at you, luckily they are only training rounds [if you installed them properly] and wont kill you. Next live weapons are used to intercept remote controlled unmanned drones (Hunters). The early ones fly straight but the later ones give you problems by turning a lot. After basic strafing there is a pretty cool finale for your graduation, firstly you fly an F-4M as a photo chase plane: Then you get to fly position 9 in a graduation formation fly over of RAF Jever. Final salute to comrpnt for a fine job six years later.

Okay so the Rolling Thunder campaign was never my favourite campaign from the series, in fact might be the most bland. The main reason for this was most probably the fact that there is no forward line of troops and tank columns to fight it out, and gain or lose ground after each mission. Rolling Thunder for real The campaign namesake this is based on was one of the most disastrous and misguided campaigns in the history of aerial warfare. What was hoped would be a few weeks of bombing missions to get North Vietnam back to the negotiating table to stop them trying to invade the South, turned into 3 or so years of bombing targets selected by Washington. Or to put it another way pussy footing around bombing things that did nothing more than improve North Vietnam's resolve to continue on its agenda and also allow it to build up its defenses with the help of the Soviet Union and China. So, 3 years of bombing targets – many times the same targets over and over, and never achieving the desired US strategy. Rolling Thunder in game In the Strike Fighters game engine this translates to what seems like a string of single missions and yes you don’t have much of an objective other than to try and not get shot down. However, unlike auto generated Single missions, Campaign missions are more content filled and almost always include strike packages and flights that help you do your job (If you at least meet your timings). Not only that all the units have their markings and decals as they should. Like history there are no SAMs until mid 1965 and the MiG regiments are limited in number. One great thing about TKs games is the use of "dates", so the game engine can just plonk in the correct objects (Guns/SAMs/MiGs) depending on the date you are flying. This also includes getting rebased and upgraded to better aircraft during the campaign. Vietnam Gold Like most things in Strike Fighters World, mods can really help and I am using the Vietnam Gold mod with a variety of my own changes. This comes with quite a fearsome atmosphere with a ton of guns shooting at you with purple stuff, red stuff and grey puffy stuff. A major benefit is a bigger variety of targets and not just the sodding comms building again. Gameplay Feb 24 1966 and I am flying from Da Nang in an F-100D (1964 version) for the 416th “Silver Knights”. I don’t know what it is about the F-100D that I like because it is outclassed by pretty much all the MiGs. The Lang Chi Electric Power plant is my target (a welcome addition from gold pack I think) – and I need to be on target for 09:10 on the dot. I am maxing out the M-117s here – there are plenty of them available. The SF2 Super Sabre also allows TERS to carry 4 on the inner pylons by default but with extra drag. How to get there hmmm. Those that played Wings Over Vietnam will know various routes into the North to minimise exposure to the SAMs, some of which had a 90% plus probability of kill if you were not flying at about 5ft off the ground. Luckily the SAMs in SF2 and this pack allow you to fly a bit more as they tended too back then! With a target near Yen Bai I can use the highlands as cover and cross in over South NVN where there are little to no SAMs. The Square box waypoint (the Initial Point /IP) is also the spawn point if you use Alt N, so can be moved around if you don’t have time to fly there. Waypoint 3 is fixed as a rendezvous with other flights. If SF2 had been developed, it would have been nice to change the waypoint details for the flights like in Falcon so you could move the fixed waypoint for all flights. Another thing that could have been improved was seeing your actual target area before flying. If you consider Jack Broughton spent all night memorising features etc before going on a mission you can understand the point of just marking the actual target with Padlock or a red dot! As you can see only 2 MiG regiments active with MiG-17F and MiG-21F-13. First Lt Eldon Atterbury is my wingy today. If you do take time to nurture the pilots their stats do improve (if they survive) Let's go then As we fly towards the target other flights are also on route to their targets. After a while several fights occur Due to meticulous planning we reach the target just fine and we roll in from above the cloud base I hit the target but get peppered by a lot of triple A Phew heading out but think my Wingy is a bit lost. Try to search, but no sign of him and no beeper! so off home alone Mystery solved, a MiG-21F-13 gunned him down and I had no idea that was in the area! If only all Vietnam mysteries could be solved so easy! I then went on to fly A-4C/Es for the US Navy in which you get to take off from Carriers in the Gulf on Tonkin Mr SAM is always happy to see you This thud was just lucky! This thud was not so lucky What are all those blotches So still quite intense flying through all the anti air and check 6 for those MiGs as always!

Hi! i am new with this, but i got a question about. I play Strike Fighters saga (WOV/I/E, SF1, SF2/V/E/I/NA) for a long time, and personally, there something that i dont like: the squadron information in the pilot roster (more specifically, the numbers of A-A and A-G kills who every squadron display in the different campaigns)...so, that's why I was wondering if there was the possibility of delete this...in basic words, put "in zero" all the squadron kills.... it's just a question of personal reasons, nothing more. PD: if you maybe dont understand at all what i say...sorry, i am not good with the english...

View File 333rd TFS F100A/C/D Skin This is a skin for the 333rd TFS, which flew F100s from 1957 to 1960. Drop the the files into your objects folder and enjoy. This is my first skin. The tail decals are stock while the nose decals were created by me. Feel free to leave a review. I am interested in making more skins for the F-100 so I am curious what everyone thinks of this skin. Thanks to Thirdwire for creating the stock tail decals. Enjoy, xboxman523 Submitter xboxman523 Submitted 09/25/2017 Category F-100  

Hello strikers! I am an enthusiastic campaign builder and i didn't have problems until this I am creating a new campaign with "CubaOTC" terrain, setting a fictional war between Argentina, Chile and Peru All works great (Data, squadrons, flayable planes, missions, etc) except one thing, weapon supplies Tried without "Supply[001].WeaponType=....." and with it, but nothing happens, i used the "Supply[001].WeaponType=....." from the "Falklands" campaign for the Argentinean planes, and nothing again, in "available stores" screen, nothing appears and i dont have any weapons tu use (Empty) This conflict is from 1985, so i dont think that is a date problem [AirUnit019] AircraftType=A-4Q Squadron=3 Escuadrilla de caza y ataque ForceID=2 Nation=Argentina DefaultTexture=post-war BaseArea=Ignacio Agramonte Int'l StartDate=09/07/1985 BaseMoveChance=0 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=2 StartAircraft=2 MaxPilots=4 StartPilots=4 Experience=70 Intelligence=50 Morale=100 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=30 MissionChance[CAP]=70 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=30 MissionChance[ESCORT]=10 MissionChance=40 MissionChance[CAS]=40 MissionChance[sEAD]=60 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=20 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=10 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=AR_LAU-3A Supply[001].Quantity=80 Supply[002].WeaponType=AR_AIM-9J Supply[002].Quantity=80 Supply[003].WeaponType=AR_Mk81 Supply[003].Quantity=320 Supply[004].WeaponType=AERO-3B Supply[004].Quantity=80 Supply[005].WeaponType=Tank300_A4nf Supply[005].Quantity=30 Supply[006].WeaponType=Tank300_A4Q Supply[006].Quantity=80 This is what i have, but i dont see anything wrong Someone knows about this? Thanks!!!

Hi, I've just got back to SF series after many years and will have to relearn everything. So I went and start a new campaign, any campaign, the game crash if I choose 'non' for service markings, is this a known problem? I've narrowed it down through trial and error, keeping other settings the same it seems like this one crash the game every time at the campaign name stage. Is there a way to fix it? I've patched it to 2013 patch and using Win7 64bit

Hi All. First time posting in this forum. I discovered Strike Fighters 2 over a week ago. This is the kind of game I was looking for. I had a love for Strike Commander and F-15 Strike Eagle of eons ago. Anyway enough of introductions. I have a problem. I downloaded Operation Desert Storm for SF2 from the files SF2_ODS_Part1-3. I am able to play the mod except that when I try to land on the carrier decks (any one) the deck is not hardened so the aircraft sinks through the ship and crashes into the ocean. The cats work fine at the start of the mission but the landing is the problem. I have read other posts about this issue but I hate how posts get hijacked (as in the posts goes off on a tangent on how to install the upgrade etc) or people give vague responses such as "seems like a carrier without LODs." Like what on earth does that mean. So can someone in the know please tell me what causes an aircraft carrier's deck to be sink through and not the cats? Also what needs to be done to fix this? I installed the update SF2E_ODS_Update1 but that did not solve the problem. I tried to copy carriers from other mods that had no problems, still same issue. So yes, a clear answer as to what would cause this would be appreciated so I can understand the innards of the game better. Thank you.

Hola soy nuevo en CombatAce y bueno busque en muchas partes un sol mas realista para el SF2. Mi otra duda es si es posible cambiarlo y como gracias. - Hello I am new to combatace good in many places I searched a more realistic sun for SF2 . My other question is whether it is possible change and as, thanks! :)

File Name: Afterburner Climax Brave Fangs File Submitter: Warwolf01 File Submitted: 14 March 2015 File Category: F-14 Basen on Afterburner Climax Brave Fangs F-14D Click here to download this file

File Name: IcelandNA (Replacement File) File Submitter: Warwolf01 File Submitted: 09 March 2015 File Category: Full Terrains This is a full IcelandNA Terrain in Standar Resolution like the other origninal sceneries, to replace the original High resolution StrikeFighters2 NorthAtlantic IcelandNA, with all airbases structures and targets, as far i test it. For this mod i used: Baltika Iceland02 Full-scale Terrain v1.0 (as base file for the replacement file) Third Wire Desert and Germany Original Terrains (as complement of Baltika Iceland02 Full-scale Terrain v1.0) Third Wire Strike Fighters 2 Extractor (To extract the necessary files) Canadair .Cat Pack Creator (To Create the File) I used Baltika Iceland02 Full-scale Terrain v1.0, then i extract desert and germany terrain files and use the texture files as complement for Iceland02 Full-scale Terrain and then re pack it to make a replace file insted of the high definition North Atlantic Terrain. is not an original file it is a remade file Click here to download this file

as it says the name of topic is there an option to record ur game and then watch later on ??? Cheers peeps

My SF2 developed a problem with the sky after I installed Nato Fighters 4, The Sky is showing up darker then it's supposed to and really strange, such as sharp edges where the horizon line is. That happens when the camera is at more of an up angle (weather that be by tilting the plane upwards or moving the camera), and when I tilt it down, the horizon line is normal, but the sky is really hazey. on final aproach this make it very aquard to land with the sky changing, and my videos are suffering because of this.

File Name: Strike Fighters 2: War For Israel V3.0 + Sandbox File Submitter: Spectre8750 File Submitted: 13 March 2013 File Category: User Made Campaigns Updated ReadMe 13 Mar 2013 Strike Fighters 2: War For Israel V3.0 + Sandbox = 11 Gigs Campaign For SF2:Israel with SF2:North Atlantic. or SF2,SF2:E,SF2:V,SF2:NA with SF2:Israel Merged Install. Campaigns incuded are "War For Israel" "ClubMed '82" and "ClubMed '97". Korea and Taiwan will be addons to this as they depend on North Atlantic. Campaigns now have Carrier Group support. More aircraft added and new cockpits for F/A-18's and F-16's. //========================================================== If you want to use the "New World Order" Nations Scenario in the Single Missions mode, Drop the Nations.ini from one of the Campaign Dir's into the Flight Dir in the User Mod but keep a backup. //========================================================== To Install: Make a copy of "StrikeFighters2 Israel.exe" and "StrikeFighters2 Israel.ini" and rename them to "StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael.exe" and "StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael.ini" put them back into the Program files Thirdwire Folder, then run the StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael.exe once and go to the Users Mod folder it created eg: ...Saved Games\ThirdWire\StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael\ and delete the contents of the Aircraft and GroundObject Folders. Extract StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael Part1 thru Part5 installers into the same Folder and run the Installers and point them to the Saved Game folder "StrikeFighters2 WarForIsrael" User Mod Root Directory. NOTE: The Campaigns in this Mod can take a while to load. I have a descent System War For Israel can take 2 or more minutes to load. Also if the campaign dumps restart and it should load ok. //========================================================== I want to thank the Community for all their effort for without this Mod would not have possible, Included below: BPAo 331KillerBee Abhi Actarus AGOSTINO aleks AmokFloo Amourdave ArturR Badger BANIDOS Team bib bigal1 BlueDream bobrock Bone Team Brain32 Caeser Camouflage Column 5 Craig CrazyhorseB34 Crusader DamWaar Dave USAFMTL Dels Deuces Diego Digital Overlord Dr.Welsh dtmdragon eburger68 Epizikl EricJ Erikgen Erwin_Hans FastCargo Florian Flying Toaster Fubar512 Gabilon Gerald14 Gaston gerwin Graybeard HoneyFox HrntFixr J.M Langeron JA 37 Viggen Jat81500 Jeanba Jimmy B Joe Baugher JSF Aggie Julhelm Jv44kt Kesselbrut Klavs81 Kout Kreelin lindr2 LloydNB Mago Manetsim Marcfighter Matthew Ouellette Max Rudakov Migbuster Miracleman Mirage Factory MJ Moonjumper Nicholas Bell OldDiego Olivier ANGUILLE pablitoVPT Pappy Pappychksix Paragon Pasko pcpilot Phamtuan Private Rafael Rampage Raptore One Ravenclaw rebel ryder Scrapper Serverandenforcer Siddog Sidewinder86 Silverbolt Sony Tuckson spillone ST0RM Starfighter2 Stary Sundowner Swede SWS Syrinx Talos Team Viper TFlash _Thomas_ Tiwaz Tunderchief Veltro2K DrWelsh Vampyre WhiteBoySamurai Wilco WingWiner Wpnssgt Wrench X Ray xiaozcs YEYEYE Zola25 Third Wire and TK Thanks to all, let me know if i missed anyone. Spectre8750@gmail.com Click here to download this file

File Name: 360 Controls For Strike Fighters 2 File Submitter: Warwolf01 File Submitted: 12 May 2012 File Category: Joystick Config Files 4 controls for Fighter, Attacker and Vtol, also include a easy keyboard configuration only with the nesesary commands Just place the file "Default.ini" in Saved Games\ThirdWire\StrikeFighters2\Controls Run Xppader, Load the Profile and you are done and ready to Fight in the sky Click here to download this file