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LimitedSupplyList not affecting AI in campaign

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+Swordsman422    61

Swordsman422
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I'm modifying the Joint Effort campaign into a modern (2004) setting, and I've run into a bit of trouble (the original campaign is ridiculously fun, BTW). I have the specs set to LimitedSupplyList=TRUE, and have limited the weapons available to all squadrons, Trying to keep the Mercenaries from having far-too-advanced weapons like the AiM-9X. But this line doesn't seem to affect the AI squadrons at all, and their elderly jet fighters are still coming into battle using HMS-targeted weapons. I want to know if there is any way to limit what weapons the AI squadrons have at their disposal without just deleting the weapons I don't want them to have or modifying (and therefore probably screwing up) their aircraft's weapons capabilities.

 

There has to be something I'm missing here. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

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+WhiteBoySamurai    1,094

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I think the best way is to give those aircraft nation-specific and date-specific loadouts.

 

For example, I got sick of seeing IAF F-5s show up with AIM-9L/M/X and other weapons they couldn't possibly have, so I made separate loadouts for them with more appropriate export weapons like so:

 

 

[AirToAir_Iran]

StartDefaultDate=1976

DefaultFor=CAP,INTERCEPT

Nation=Iran

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AIM-9P

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AIM-9P

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=AIM-9P

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=AIM-9P

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=F-5E_CTFUEL

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

 

I think "Nation=Merc" would be the entry to use in your case.

 

The other more drastic solution, of course, is to make a copy of the aircraft in question so you can make a more finely-tuned nation-specific version. This takes up more hard drive space, though, and you'll have to edit the campaign files to use the aircraft version you want.

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+Swordsman422    61

Swordsman422
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Thanks, WBS, I think that did it. That data line must have been introduced in a recent patch. I've never seen it before.

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Centurion-1    1,228

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Yeah, it's pretty recent. I'm having a blast with Joint Effort too, but I've edited it some to give the mercs more of an edge.. Also did some simple skins to really get that merc feeling:

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Though playing as a merc by using the camp editor I find the campaign ending in defeat rather abruptly saying that the opposing force have achieved their strategic objectives.. don't know what that is about..

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+Swordsman422    61

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The mods I made were to create a quantity vs. quality situation, kinda like the James Huston novel Balance of Power. The Navy has a single CVW, specifically CVW-14 on it's 2004 Westpac. The mercs/pirates have a large number of refurbished old planes. Most are not a threat 1v1, but in swarms they can be a hassle. They do have a dozen F-4J_74s that can lob missiles at medium range and have sufficient ECM power to spoof even modern radars. I don't mind having missiles flung at me even frequently, but I do have a problem with decrepit old Super Mysteres taking me down with AiM-9Xs or V3Es in high off-boresight shots that could only be made with helmet mounted interfaces.

 

I like those skins. They look beat up and filthy. I don't think mercs would be flying with pristine machines. At some point, if anyone ever makes a generic skin for the E-1 Tracer, I'll replace the mercenary E-2 Hawkeye with it. They'd more likely use something outdated or maybe even custom if they had AEW at all.

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Centurion-1    1,228

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Yeah, the E-2C is pretty high-tech.. A C-47 dakota outfitted for maritime patrol/search might be more like it. I like the idea of aircraft destined for scrapping ending up in the hand of mercs (like the F-8, early A-4s, F-105 et cetera). I admit in my current 1979 setup the mercs might have too good aircraft, but on the other hand blowing completely inferior planes out of the sky is not fun either.

Want to post your campaign data file? Mainly for the US aircraft list

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+Swordsman422    61

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Sorry this took a bit. I'm still tweaking. I changed CVWs because I'm a bigger fan of Atlantic Fleet units than Pac fleet for the most part. Anyway, this is my rendition of CVW-3

 

[AirUnit001]

AircraftType=F-14B

Squadron=VF32

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

Defaulttexture=USNVF32LC

StartNumber=6

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=10

StartAircraft=10

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=50

MissionChance[CAP]=50

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=60

MissionChance[CAS]=60

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=30

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=20

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=25

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=GBU-12E_Grey

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=GBU-16C_N

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=GBU-31V4

Supply[003].Quantity=500

Supply[004].WeaponType=CBU-100

Supply[004].Quantity=300

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9M

Supply[005].Quantity=200

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-7P

Supply[006].Quantity=250

Supply[007].WeaponType=AIM-54CE

Supply[007].Quantity=300

Supply[008].WeaponType=Mk82

Supply[008].Quantity=300

Supply[009].WeaponType=Tank330_F14

Supply[009].Quantity=300

Supply[010].WeaponType=TARPS-CD

Supply[010].Quantity=300

Supply[011].WeaponType=LBDD

Supply[011].Quantity=300

Supply[012].WeaponType=RBDD

Supply[012].Quantity=300

Supply[013].WeaponType=F14DDL

Supply[013].Quantity=300

Supply[014].WeaponType=F14_AAQ-14DI

Supply[014].Quantity=300

Supply[015].WeaponType=ALQ-167

Supply[015].Quantity=300

Supply[016].WeaponType=Mk83

Supply[016].Quantity=300

Supply[017].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[017].Quantity=300

 

[AirUnit002]

AircraftType=FA-18A+

Squadron=VMFA115

ForceID=1

Nation=USMC

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

Defaulttexture=VMFA-115

StartNumber=1

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=12

StartAircraft=12

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=50

MissionChance[CAP]=50

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=40

MissionChance[CAS]=40

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=30

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=20

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=GBU-12

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=GBU-12E

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=GBU-31V4

Supply[003].Quantity=500

Supply[004].WeaponType=CBU-78

Supply[004].Quantity=300

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9X

Supply[005].Quantity=200

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-120C

Supply[006].Quantity=250

Supply[007].WeaponType=GBU-38

Supply[007].Quantity=300

Supply[008].WeaponType=Mk82

Supply[008].Quantity=300

Supply[009].WeaponType=Tank300_F18

Supply[009].Quantity=300

Supply[010].WeaponType=AGM-84E

Supply[010].Quantity=300

Supply[011].WeaponType=AGM-65E

Supply[011].Quantity=300

Supply[012].WeaponType=AGM-88A

Supply[012].Quantity=300

Supply[013].WeaponType=SHARP

Supply[013].Quantity=300

Supply[014].WeaponType=ATFLIR38

Supply[014].Quantity=300

Supply[015].WeaponType=ASQ-173

Supply[015].Quantity=300

Supply[016].WeaponType=Mk83

Supply[016].Quantity=300

Supply[017].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[017].Quantity=300

Supply[018].WeaponType=AGM-154A

Supply[018].Quantity=300

 

[AirUnit003]

AircraftType=FA-18C

Squadron=VA37

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

DefaultTexture=VFA37

StartNumber=4

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=12

StartAircraft=12

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=50

MissionChance[CAP]=50

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=40

MissionChance[CAS]=40

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=30

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=20

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=GBU-12

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=GBU-12E

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=GBU-31V4

Supply[003].Quantity=500

Supply[004].WeaponType=CBU-78

Supply[004].Quantity=300

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9X

Supply[005].Quantity=200

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-120C

Supply[006].Quantity=250

Supply[007].WeaponType=GBU-38

Supply[007].Quantity=300

Supply[008].WeaponType=Mk82

Supply[008].Quantity=300

Supply[009].WeaponType=Tank300_F18

Supply[009].Quantity=300

Supply[010].WeaponType=AGM-84E

Supply[010].Quantity=300

Supply[011].WeaponType=AGM-65E

Supply[011].Quantity=300

Supply[012].WeaponType=AGM-88A

Supply[012].Quantity=300

Supply[013].WeaponType=SHARP

Supply[013].Quantity=300

Supply[014].WeaponType=ATFLIR38

Supply[014].Quantity=300

Supply[015].WeaponType=ASQ-173

Supply[015].Quantity=300

Supply[016].WeaponType=Mk83

Supply[016].Quantity=300

Supply[017].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[017].Quantity=300

Supply[018].WeaponType=AGM-154A

Supply[018].Quantity=300

 

[AirUnit004]

AircraftType=FA-18C

Squadron=VA105

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

DefaultTexture=VFA105

StartNumber=3

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=12

StartAircraft=12

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=50

MissionChance[CAP]=50

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=40

MissionChance[CAS]=40

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=30

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=20

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=GBU-12

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=GBU-12E

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=GBU-31V4

Supply[003].Quantity=500

Supply[004].WeaponType=CBU-78

Supply[004].Quantity=300

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9X

Supply[005].Quantity=200

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-120C

Supply[006].Quantity=250

Supply[007].WeaponType=GBU-38

Supply[007].Quantity=300

Supply[008].WeaponType=Mk82

Supply[008].Quantity=300

Supply[009].WeaponType=Tank300_F18

Supply[009].Quantity=300

Supply[010].WeaponType=AGM-84E

Supply[010].Quantity=300

Supply[011].WeaponType=AGM-65E

Supply[011].Quantity=300

Supply[012].WeaponType=AGM-88A

Supply[012].Quantity=300

Supply[013].WeaponType=SHARP

Supply[013].Quantity=300

Supply[014].WeaponType=ATFLIR38

Supply[014].Quantity=300

Supply[015].WeaponType=ASQ-173

Supply[015].Quantity=300

Supply[016].WeaponType=Mk83

Supply[016].Quantity=300

Supply[017].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[017].Quantity=300

Supply[018].WeaponType=AGM-154A

Supply[018].Quantity=300

 

[AirUnit005]

AircraftType=EA-6B_98

Unitname=VAQ-130 Zappers

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

DefaultTexture=USNGreyLVG

StartNumber=20

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=6

StartAircraft=6

MaxPilots=20

StartPilots=20

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=0

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT]=0

MissionChance=0

MissionChance[CAS]=0

MissionChance[sEAD]=100

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0

MissionChance[RECON]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=100

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=AGM-78C

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=AGM-88C

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=Tank300_A6

Supply[003].Quantity=500

 

 

[AirUnit006]

AircraftType=E-2C

UnitName=VAW-126 Sea Hawks

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

DefaultTexture=USNGrey1

StartNumber=77

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=4

StartAircraft=4

MaxPilots=6

StartPilots=6

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[sWEEP]=0

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT]=0

MissionChance=0

MissionChance[CAS]=0

MissionChance[sEAD]=0

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0

MissionChance[RECON]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=0

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=0

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=100

UpgradeType=NEVER

 

[AirUnit007]

AircraftType=S-3B

UnitName=VS-22 Checkmates

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

CarrierBased=TRUE

NavalUnitID=1

ShipID=1

DefaultTexture=VS22

StartNumber=2

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=8

StartAircraft=8

MaxPilots=10

StartPilots=10

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=90

MissionChance[sWEEP]=0

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT]=0

MissionChance=50

MissionChance[CAS]=0

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=100

MissionChance[RECON]=100

MissionChance[NAVAL_SEARCH]=100

MissionChance[NAVAL_ATTACK]=100

MissionChance[ESCORT_JAMMER]=0

MissionChance[ESCORT_DECOY]=0

MissionChance[CRUISE_MISSILE]=100

MissionChance[EARLY_WARNING]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

LimitedSupplyList=TRUE

Supply[001].WeaponType=GBU-12

Supply[001].Quantity=800

Supply[002].WeaponType=GBU-12E

Supply[002].Quantity=200

Supply[003].WeaponType=GBU-31V4

Supply[003].Quantity=500

Supply[004].WeaponType=CBU-78

Supply[004].Quantity=300

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9X

Supply[006].Quantity=200

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-120C

Supply[006].Quantity=250

Supply[007].WeaponType=GBU-38

Supply[007].Quantity=300

Supply[008].WeaponType=Mk82

Supply[008].Quantity=300

Supply[009].WeaponType=Rockeye

Supply[009].Quantity=300

Supply[010].WeaponType=AGM-84E

Supply[010].Quantity=300

Supply[011].WeaponType=AGM-65D

Supply[011].Quantity=300

Supply[012].WeaponType=AGM-88A

Supply[012].Quantity=300

Supply[013].WeaponType=Tank300_A7

Supply[013].Quantity=300

Supply[014].WeaponType=ATFLIR38

Supply[014].Quantity=300

Supply[015].WeaponType=LAU-3A

Supply[015].Quantity=300

Supply[016].WeaponType=Mk83

Supply[016].Quantity=300

Supply[017].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[017].Quantity=300

Supply[018].WeaponType=AGM-154A

Supply[018].Quantity=300

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