Marcfighter 24 Posted November 5, 2007 Hi My Friends ! This is HMS-Conqueror HMS Conqueror was a Churchill-class nuclear-powered fleet submarine that served in the Royal Navy from 1971 to 1990. She was built by Cammell Laird in Birkenhead. As of 2007, she is the only nuclear-powered submarine to have engaged an enemy ship with torpedoes, sinking the cruiser ARA General Belgrano. Conqueror was the third of the class, the other two being Churchill and Courageous. The main aim of these submarines was to face the Soviet threat at sea by attacking other ships and submarines, and spying on Soviet nuclear-armed submarine movements. However, Conqueror, commanded by Cdr Chris Wreford-Brown, was most famously deployed during the Falklands War, setting sail from Faslane Naval Base on the River Clyde in Scotland on 3 April 1982, one day after the Argentine invasion. Conqueror arrived in the exclusion zone around the Falklands twenty-one days later. She was ordered to scan the area for Argentine shipping, particularly the Argentine aircraft carrier, ARA Veinticinco de Mayo (the 25th of May). However, on 30 April, she spotted the Argentine light cruiser, ARA General Belgrano. Belgrano was sailing southwest of the Falklands, just outside the exclusion zone imposed by the British on Argentine shipping and approaching the Task Force, while the ARA Veinticinco de Mayo was approaching from the north. British admiral, Rear Admiral J. F. Woodward, requested permission from the British government to sink Belgrano. After some debate he was allowed to proceed, though while this was going on the Belgrano retired from its attack position since the ARA Veinticinco de Mayo was not ready. Finally, the message to engage the 'Belgrano' was sent from Northwood, the Royal Navy's fleet command centre in the United Kingdom to Conqueror. The basis for this decision was that the Royal Navy feared a pincer-style attack with Belgrano attacking from the south, and the Veinticinco de Mayo from the north. Also Belgrano could have escaped from Conqueror by sailing across nearby shallow waters, and it could have then attacked the British Task Force. The scene was now set, and on 2 May Conqueror became the first nuclear-powered submarine to fire in anger when she launched three torpedoes at Belgrano, two of which struck the ship and exploded. Twenty minutes later, the ship was sinking rapidly and was abandoned by the crew. The two escorting destroyers fled the scene under fear of further attack. 323 men were killed. Conqueror's war did not end there. The crew of the submarine had to face Argentine Air Force attempts to locate the boat in the days after the attack, which had shocked the Argentine people and ruling dictatorship. Conqueror did not fire again in anger throughout the war, but the crew did provide valuable help to the task force by using their sophisticated monitoring equipment to track Argentine aircraft departing the mainland. After the war, Conqueror returned to Faslane, flying the Jolly Roger, a customary act of Royal Navy submarines after a "kill". When asked about the incident later, Cdr Wreford-Brown responded, "The Royal Navy spent thirteen years preparing me for such an occasion. It would have been regarded as extremely dreary if I had fouled it up." Conqueror did not take part in any other official conflicts, and was decommissioned in 1990. The periscope of the submarine can be viewed in the Royal Navy's museum in Gosport. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted November 5, 2007 Marc, Do you actually ever sleep??? :) Very nice work as usual! FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLY 0 Posted November 6, 2007 Muy Bueno Marcelo! :good: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dante-JT 6 Posted November 6, 2007 Muy Bueno Marcelo! :good: Fantastic, Marcelo! Ariel did the Belgrano a while ago: Hopefully we will dust off the model and send to you for texture job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloto 3 Posted November 8, 2007 Very nice, as usual!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Hinchinbrooke 36 Posted November 9, 2007 How will Conqueror be used in the game? Unless I'm mistaken, being a nuclear boat, she was submerged throughout her patrol. In other words, she would be an invisible target............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcfighter 24 Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) How will Conqueror be used in the game? Unless I'm mistaken, being a nuclear boat, she was submerged throughout her patrol. In other words, she would be an invisible target............ The Comqueror after sinking Belgrado was hunted by Argentina. We can simulate this episode in a mission. We needed the model for you sink it. In the game the Argentineans can win. Edited November 9, 2007 by Marcfighter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dante-JT 6 Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) How will Conqueror be used in the game? Unless I'm mistaken, being a nuclear boat, she was submerged throughout her patrol. In other words, she would be an invisible target............ Pressing "C" (or whatever key bind used to switch between available targets) the player will be able to watch all units in the campaign like you do in other simulations (if this option is turned on, of course). In the cause of the submarine units, of course this camera will be placed underwater. But this is not priority of course (how good the renderer will be underwater or even if such feature will be added at all). And indeed, as Marcelo correctly pointed, the submarine must exist so the argentine ASW operations may have a shot :) Edited November 9, 2007 by Dante-JT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Hinchinbrooke 36 Posted November 9, 2007 Pressing "C" (or whatever key bind used to switch between available targets) the player will be able to watch all units in the campaign like you do in other simulations (if this option is turned on, of course). In the cause of the submarine units, of course this camera will be placed underwater. But this is not priority of course (how good the renderer will be underwater or even if such feature will be added at all). And indeed, as Marcelo correctly pointed, the submarine must exist so the argentine ASW operations may have a shot :) Okay, makes sense. I wasn't sure about the ASW element of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted November 9, 2007 i want see the sinking animation, should be very interesting! in other sims, u just wach the ship eated by water(okay, i dunno if this happend in real life)! but should be very cool if it looks like in the "Titanic" movie \o/ more about the battle btween belgrando and Conqueror for those who didnt read before ^^ http://www.guardian.co.uk/falklands/story/0,,658430,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dante-JT 6 Posted November 9, 2007 i want see the sinking animation, should be very interesting!in other sims, u just wach the ship eated by water Notice in the pic you posted above, how the whole Belgrano's front was ripped off by the torpedo explosion. We plan to have a decent damage modeling for ships too, compartimentalized, more towards the Silent Hunter series than a typical flight sim: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted November 10, 2007 (edited) whooow! it really will be a revolution in fligh sims! Edited November 10, 2007 by Silverbolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcfighter 24 Posted November 10, 2007 Here some airplanes that participated of the hunt to Conqueror. :yes: EMB111 Bandeirulha, Rented of Brazil for the Armada Argentina. Grumman S-2 Tracker. Now is not flyable, but they can be a future addon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Hinchinbrooke 36 Posted November 10, 2007 So will Jet Thunder has some sort of sonar capability? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dante-JT 6 Posted November 11, 2007 So will Jet Thunder has some sort of sonar capability? Units will have a "sensor array" to check for other units - Type 42 destroyers have their surveillance radar with 360 degree coverage over surface - it makes sense to add also the means to check for underwater units - although we're still pondering how to do it (and we lack sonar data and specs - but this will be reachable and doable) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites