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Hello the final version of Desert Plus terrain should be here soon so im going to update my Desert Plus campaing for the new terrain.

 

now to all who have playded mi campaing tel me what his good and what his bad on it so i can fixe it

 

2º tel me and this is for all the comunity what aircraft do you whant in the campaing and the time line

 

all who to join me in this project are welcomed

 

Cocas

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all who to join me in this project are welcomed

 

Cocas

 

 

Well, I like historical simulations most, but a good, old jets and guns clash is always welcome. :yes:

 

If you need me for campaign testing or something else, I'm here.

 

 

Paolo :good:

 

 

 

P.S.

I read, don't remember where, that TW DESERT terrain = real Mozambique terrain ....

So we could sail to an African campaign, too .....

There are some Migs, some Mirages and some Ginas, too, ready to take off .....

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all who to join me in this project are welcomed

 

Cocas

 

 

 

Well, I like historical simulations most, but a good, old jets and guns clash is always welcome. :yes:

 

If you need me for campaign testing or something else, I'm here.

 

 

Paolo :good:

 

 

 

P.S.

I read, don't remember where, that TW DESERT terrain = real Mozambique terrain ....

So we could sail to an African campaign, too .....

There are some Migs, some Mirages and some Ginas, too, ready to take off .....

has far has i know the desert terrain is ficional

 

heres the original aircraft list of my campaing

 

F-4E/J Phantom

 

A-4F Skihawk

 

F-104G starfighter

 

MiG´s 17F 21F 21PFM 21MF 19S

 

Su-7BM Fitter-A

 

A-7D/E corsair

 

F-111D Aardvark

 

Mirage IIIC/IIIE/F-1C

 

Impala II Preproduction_Model

 

Draken J-35FS (Draken pack)

 

F-5E Tiger II

 

F-86F sabre

 

Fiat G91R4 Gina

 

F-4F/G Phantom

 

Jaguar GR

 

Phantom FGRMK2

 

F-14A Tomcat

 

F-8J Crusader

 

OA-10A bronco

 

F-105G thunderchief

 

U-2A

 

Hawker Hunter F.6

 

Aero L39ZA Albatross

 

MiG 23M Flogger-B

 

Su-17 Fitter-C

 

MiG-25PD/RB (Foxbat pack)

 

MiG-21PF Fishbed (avsim´s aircraft_147315)

 

And for ground objects

 

Pasko Desert Pack

 

Weapons pack

 

im going to take the Mig-21PF the fm his to old for new patch so im looking for someting to put in its place intercptor and cap role

 

may be replace the drakken whit F-102

 

Impala II Preproduction_Model whit MB-339A

 

and some more changes on the ground objects

 

whit some ini renaming we cloud make a stand in africa terrain and campaing

 

just need to rename target areas and bases no proble there.

 

Cocas

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found a replace for Mig-21PF gerpard´s MiG-19PF

 

at least until Wrench puts out the P/PM

 

hey Kevin d need nose made for 19P/PM i can make it

 

for the Africa campaing Paolo choose the countris that you want and make a city list and base list for starteres(ops bad enghlis) :rofl: then we can focus on a standy terrain and a campaing has a indepente mod and terrain.

 

Cocas

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for the Africa campaing Paolo choose the countris that you want and make a city list and base list for starteres(ops bad enghlis) :rofl: then we can focus on a standy terrain and a campaing has a indepente mod and terrain.

 

Cocas

 

 

.... found.

 

In Bunyap's "strike fighters .... editing info" at the bottom of pag. 34

 

" ... It is based on digital elevation maps from the USGS and is the actual terrain of Mozambique ... The bit of island on the north end of the map is actually the west coast of Madagascar .... "Mosak, Dhimar" is actually close to the present day Beira, Mozambique ..."

 

So I think that some of our Portoguese or Mozambique friends could try to drive back the desert terrain to real world to gain a true african scenery for a Mozambique campaign.

 

It is only an idea, but I liked share it with you.

 

Paolo :cool:

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for the Africa campaing Paolo choose the countris that you want and make a city list and base list for starteres(ops bad enghlis) :rofl: then we can focus on a standy terrain and a campaing has a indepente mod and terrain.

 

Cocas

 

 

 

.... found.

 

In Bunyap's "strike fighters .... editing info" at the bottom of pag. 34

 

" ... It is based on digital elevation maps from the USGS and is the actual terrain of Mozambique ... The bit of island on the north end of the map is actually the west coast of Madagascar .... "Mosak, Dhimar" is actually close to the present day Beira, Mozambique ..."

 

So I think that some of our Portoguese or Mozambique friends could try to drive back the desert terrain to real world to gain a true african scenery for a Mozambique campaign.

 

It is only an idea, but I liked share it with you.

 

Paolo :cool:

ok my mistake i dint read that file so you are on lets make the necessary chances and we can make a campaing in Moçambique well im going need to check the names of the citys for time line you talking about the portuguese colonial war right that it going to mostly a CAS campaing as far has i know need to check that for more intel

 

Daniel

 

found this so far

 

Da Força Aérea Portuguesa:

 

1952-1955 - Centro de Instrução Aeronáutica de Lourenço Marques;

1962-1975 - Base Aérea Nº 10 (BA10), base aérea central na Beira;

1961-1975 - Aeródromo-Base Nº 5 (AB5), base aérea de sector em Nacala;

1967-1975 - Aeródromo-Base Nº 6 (AB6), base aérea de sector em Nova Freixo;

1962-1975 - Aeródromo-Base Nº 7 (AB7), base aérea de sector em Tete;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo-Base Nº 8 (AB8), base aérea de sector em Lourenço Marques;

1962-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 51, aeródromo satélite do AB5 em Mueda;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 52, aeródromo satélite do AB5 em Nampula;

1967-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 61, aeródromo satélite do AB6 em Vila Cabral;

1967-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 62, aeródromo satélite do AB6 em Marrupa;

1962-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 71, aeródromo satélite do AB7 em Furacungo;

1962-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 72, aeródromo satélite do AB7 em Chicoa;

1962-1975 - Aeródromo de Manobra Nº 73, aeródromo satélite do AB7 em Mutara;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Recurso de Tenente Valadim;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Recurso de Montepuez;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Recurso de Milange;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Recurso de Fingoé;

1963-1975 - Aeródromo de Recurso de Vila Pery.

 

now just need to know what aircraft whas stationed tere

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Take a look here, too:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_War_of_Independence

 

 

The F-84Gs (we have a brand new one for SPF2 now to skin) and then our G-91Rs from 1968 (yet skinned) are the stars of the indipendence war.

We could fly only Portuguese AF, I think.

 

 

..... after we colud have Migs 17-15UTI against SAAF Mirage IIICZs, Canberras and maybe, tomorrow a Buc :rolleyes: , but I don't now if desert map in the real world has the Sud African border ...

 

 

 

Paolo :cool:

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Take a look here, too:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_War_of_Independence

 

 

The F-84Gs (we have a brand new one for SPF2 now to skin) and then our G-91Rs from 1968 (yet skinned) are the stars of the indipendence war.

We could fly only Portuguese AF, I think.

 

 

..... after we colud have Migs 17-15UTI against SAAF Mirage IIICZs, Canberras and maybe, tomorrow a Buc :rolleyes: , but I don't now if desert map in the real world has the Sud African border ...

 

 

 

Paolo :cool:

the conversion of the desert terrain to Moçambique will not be 100% real a lot of stuff will remain ficcional so theres no problem in add a small part of south africa to the terrain

 

there will be tow campaings one the independence war and another on civil war whit south africa hs one of the players involved in this second campaing we can fly both sides inthe frist only the FAP

 

in going to make this for SFP1 and WOX since i dont have SF2 and then any one can coverte it to SF2

 

i going to sort some detail today and tomorow again any one who wants to help it intel is welcomed

 

Cocas :crazy:

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Guys im having a thuff time finding out intel on the south africa´s involmente in mozambique can someone give dates pls

 

BTW made a mistake the impala in going to replaced by MB 326 not by MB 339 since this last one only enter service in 1979

 

right now im wait for the final version of desert Plus terrain for the campaing update

 

and a going to start modding the stock terrain in to mozambique ini edit only no moving stuff around at least for now

 

Cocas

 

ps i think that a new tread is needed for the mozambique mod or do we stick to this one this has been littel of topic no?

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Mozambique is a great idea and deserves its own thread. [Deuces Madagascar tiles might be a nice choice for it.] Desert Plus update starting soon but will take a while on my half speed dial-up.

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Desert Plus has been updated. Any problems, please let me know.

downloading now :good:

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I have all plande out guys

 

im going to make two campaing packs one i just be a update of my frist pack whit a fewe A/C mor.

 

The second whil a whole new campaing in the late 50´s the story go like this Sharnak has just become independente from Dohar on its second year of life Sharnak his heavely atacked by Dohar who wants its land back Paran whanting to more power in the region backs Dohar.

Of course Dhimar comes to assiste its new ally contry and now the Superpowers start the own game for power in the region.

 

that is the base of the new campaing

 

today im going to work out the aircraft list

 

you can count on this

 

A/C already

 

F-86

MiG-15

F-84

Seahawk

F9F panther

AD-1 Skyraider

Tu-4

F-80

 

still working on the final list

 

any seguestions are welcome

 

after a finish its i will start on the Mozambique Terrain

 

Cocas

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The new campaign sounds great! Regarding Mozambique, the stock desert terrain appears to include most of it as well as the northeastern portion of South Africa [Transvaal region] and the eastern portion of Zimbabwe/Rhodesia. I tried installing Deuces Madagascar tiles into the stock desert terrain but seems to need a few transitional tiles. Also, the terrain would have to be rotated 90deg clockwise.[i think] I will check into this a little more but have another project to finish so won't get too involved with a Mozambique project. Cheers.

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Cocas, You are missing British aircraft such as the Hawker Hunter, de Havilland Venom, de Havilland Vampire, maybe even a couple of Mosquitoes, and some other foreign aircraft.

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im not missing British aircraft or outer A/C i just dint put it on this list but they wil be on the campaing you can be sure of that.

 

Baff if whant to help you are most welcomed thanks

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update on aircraft list

 

Hunter F6

MD-450

Myster IVa

Vautour B

Spitfire :biggrin:

F-51D :biggrin:

Musquoitos

Yak-15

F-94B

MiG-9

Su-9(1947)

At-6D

 

right can remember the rest sorry

 

also some INI edits for the A/C ficçional field mods mostly

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the list for the Campaing 56

 

Aircraft

 

Paran

 

Mig-15

 

Mig-15bs

 

Yak-15

 

La-15

 

Tu-4

 

Dohar

 

Mig-9

 

su-9(1947)

 

Yak-9U

 

La-11SU

 

 

Sharnak

 

Sptifre 22

 

Meteor_F4_EAF

 

Mosquito FB

 

F-80

 

AT-6D

 

Dhimar

 

F-84

 

F-94B

 

F-80

 

F-51D

 

F8F

 

Venom

 

Usaf

 

F-86F

 

F-84G

 

B-29B

 

Soviet

 

Mig-17F

 

Mig-17PF

 

IL-28

 

France

 

MD-450

 

Mystere IVA

 

VautourB

 

RAF

 

Vampire

 

Hunter f6

 

Royal navy

 

Seahawk

 

USN/USCM

 

AD-1

 

F9F/J

 

?

 

Ground forces

 

M-24

 

Sherman

 

T-34-85

 

TigerII

 

M48A2

 

date of campaing is set in 1956

 

this can be change if you guys want just let me know what aircraft youwant in the campaing

 

Cocas

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Two questions do you guys whant the skins and mods upload one by one has i finish them or in the Campaing Pack

 

second in the Wep_pack of TMF i only found S-24 rocket but in the outers packs there whas outer Russian rockets what can i do ot put them in the mods that im making or should i do my won 3d model of the Rockets and just add them to weapons_data.ini and provide txt whit the mod so that it can added by who downloads the mods?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cocas

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Hi Cocas,

A few suggestions for your airplane list. Seems like Dhimar is being supplied by the U.S. and Sharnak by Britain so why not:

 

1.] Remove Sharnaks F-80 and replace with the Vampire.

2.] Replace the RAF's Vampire with the Venom.

3.] Remove Dhimars Venom and replace with something else.

4.] Maybe a squadron or 2 of MiG-19's for the Soviets.

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Hi Cocas,

A few suggestions for your airplane list. Seems like Dhimar is being supplied by the U.S. and Sharnak by Britain so why not:

 

1.] Remove Sharnaks F-80 and replace with the Vampire.

2.] Replace the RAF's Vampire with the Venom.

3.] Remove Dhimars Venom and replace with something else.

4.] Maybe a squadron or 2 of MiG-19's for the Soviets.

Ok good call Baffmeister

 

Dhimari Venom replace whit AT-6D

 

just need some thing for Sharnak to replace the AT-6D on ground suport may the SeaFury? Dont know it need to be easy to donwload no A-team dev stuff.

 

Cocas

 

ps going check the download seccion.

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Got the Seafury from the downloads seccion fix the lack of loadout.ini now its the replament for the AT-6D.

 

Im going to rework the aircraft list to set this pattern Dhimar use US aircrat Sharnak UK and European A/C

 

Dohar Paran WP and China A/C.

 

i will post a list tomorow whit modern aircraft to since a going redo the list and the campaing lets get all done now anybody got tip for the modern A/C list?

 

Cocas

 

now im going to redo skin tread.

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Heres his the A/C list for the DesertPlus Campaings in the works

 

Dohar air forces

 

56 Conflict

 

An-2

Mig-9

Su-9(1947)

Yak-9U

La-11SU

67 War

Su-7bm

Mig-17F

Mig-19S

Mig-19PF

77 Invasion

Mig-17F

L39ZA

Mig-19S

Mig-21F

94 Agression

Mig-19S

Mig-21MF

J-7H

Q-5D

Su-17

2009 path to freedom

J-10A

Q-5D

Mig-29A

JH-7A

 

Sharnak Air Forces

 

56 Conflict

Sptifre 22

Meteor_F4_EAF

Mosquito FB

Venom

66 War

Hunter_F6

MD-450

Super mystere

Vautour

77 Invasion

Hunter_F6

MB-326H

Mirage IIIC

Fiat g91r4

94 Agression

Mirage IIIC

Mirage F1

MB-339

Jaguar GR1

2009 path to freedom

Jaguar GR1

Mirage 2000C

Mb-339

Harrier FRS 2

Dhimar Air forces

 

56 Conflict

F-84

F-94B

F-80

F-51D

F8F

AT-6D

66 War

B-66B

A-4E

F-100D

F-84F

F-86F

F-101B

F-104C

F3H-2M

77 Invasion

A-4E

A-4F

B-57B

F-4E

F-5E

F-102A

95 Agression

F-4E

F-15A

F-16A

A-7E

A-6E_TRAM

2009 path to freedom

F-15A

F-16C

Grippen

F-15E

Typhoon

Paran Air forces

 

56 Conflict

Mig-15

Mig-15bs

Yak-15

La-15

Tu-4

66 War

Mig-17F

Mig-17PF

Mig-19S

Mig-21F

IL-18

Su-7BM

Tu-16A

 

77 Invasion

Mig-17F

Mig-19S

Mig-21PFM

Mig-21F

Su-7BM

Mig-21MF

95 Agression

Mig-23M

Mig-29A

Mig-27D

SU-17M3

 

2009 path to freedom

Su-27SM

Su-35

Mig-29A

Su-24

Su-39

 

USAF/NAVY/USMC

 

56 Conflict

AD-4

F-86F

B-29B

F-84F

F9J

FJ-3

B-47E

77 Invasion

F-4E

F-4J

F-111D

F-14A

A-7D

A-7E

F-105G

F-4G

U-2A

F-8J

Ov-10A

94 Agression

F-14A

F-15C

F-15E

F-16C BLC 50

FA-18A

A-10A

AV-8B plus

FB-111

2009 path to freedom

F-18E

EA-18G

F-15C

F-16E

B-52H

F-22A

F-35

RAF

 

56 Conflict

Vampire

Hunter f6

Royal navy

Seahawk

 

77 Invasion

FGR mk2 Phantom

Jaguar GR 1

90 Agression

Tornado GR1A

Jaguar GR 1

2009 path to freedom

Typhoon

Tornado F3

 

Royal navy

 

56 Conflict

Seahawk

Seafury

 

Wgermany

 

77 Invasion

F-104G

F-4F

2009 path to freedom

F-4F

Typhoon

Tornado IDS

 

France

 

56 Conflict

MD-450

Mystere IVA

VautourB

 

77 Invasion

Mirage F-1C

Mirage IIIE

 

90 Agression

Mirage 2000C

Mirage F-1C

2009 path to freedom

Mirage 2000D

Mirage 2000C

 

Soviet Air force

 

56 Conflict

Mig-17F

Mig-17PF

Mig-19S

IL-28

 

77 Invasion

Mig-23ML

Mig-25PD

Mig-25RB

Su-17

 

 

this list can be change if you guys whant to just let me know watt you want to be changed

 

Cocas

 

EDIT add some more aircraft

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