thedrummerguy Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 hiya guys! Thought id share 2 simple mods i did to create more accurate Iraqi mig-23s for TW games: I played around slightly with the stock textures in the game to get a slightly more worn look, but the important addition is the modification of the decal placements: Iraqi mig-23s followed a USAF insignia style, having the national marking on the upper port wing/lower starboard wing. additionally most of the fin flashes were painted on the ground and appear slanted when the aircraft is flying level in the air. Hope you guys find these useful :) http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag9286e/n/Iraqi_MiG-23MF_rar http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag9287h/n/Iraqi_MiG-23BN_rar Regards Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 thedrummerguy (!) So while 3D-models are modified or not (?!). Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 28, 2009 Author Posted June 28, 2009 3d models are the stock WOI ones Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 The point is that the Iraqi MiG-23BN was mounted rod receiving fuel. Most recently lindr2 created a model of the Iraqi MiG-23BN in mind that this design feature. And you can expect that this model will soon be available to all. Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Thus, it appears that basically, you created a new skin (?!). Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 28, 2009 Author Posted June 28, 2009 The point is that the Iraqi MiG-23BN was mounted rod receiving fuel. Most recently lindr2 created a model of the Iraqi MiG-23BN in mind that this design feature. And you can expect that this model will soon be available to all. hiya only one iraqi mig-23BN has ever been seen with a refuel probe, with the modification supposedly carried out on only a handful (though yet to see pictorial evidence for mass adoption). a far more common modification being the mounting of ASO-2 chaff/flare dispensors. though both modifications were only ever carried out on a small percentage of the total mig-23bn fleet :) however libya also recieved this modification, though not sure in what number regards Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 In principle, I have not said that all Iraqi MiG-23BN were equipped bar admission of fuel. But it is the Iraqi vehicles were so equipped. More than anywhere else in the world like the modernization of MiG-23BN not performed. Anyway, I'm not aware ... I think that a little later, lindr2 lay out their model for all ... Quote
+SUICIDAL Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I think the MIG-23 in Iraq used the Russian system. BVP-50-60 chaff/flare dispensers used by the Russians Flogger during the Afghanistan campaign. Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 28, 2009 Author Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) retrofitted ASO-2 as on Su-22s Ethiopian mig-21s and 23s have also been modified (underneath tailplane) Edited June 28, 2009 by thedrummerguy Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 IAF MiG-23BNs and MiG-27Ms were fitted with chaff/flare dispensers...don't know what these dispensers were called. 23BN 27M Quote
+SUICIDAL Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 In this pylon can carry 1 bomb or a container of chaff / flare. MIG-23BN with refueling probe Saludos Marcos Quote
+SUICIDAL Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) The photo you uploaded that you can see the cartridge counter measures. It is normal for anyone, you can see the container of the cartridges. Which varies only a little aerodynamic shape. PD: and the name is invention national . jajajajaja Very good picture. I love the details. thanks ghostrider883 Marcos Edited June 29, 2009 by suicidal Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) ghostrider883 and Marcos (!) Very helpful photos (!). And most - on the topic. I have experienced in his samples found on the MiG-23BN and MiG-27ML device emission of heat trapping ... This is especially true for variants of the MiG-27M engine AL-31F ... In general, variants of the lot. Some time ago, gathered modified MiG-27M-96: the long, that it is done, it has created for him ILS ... But it works a lot ... Edited June 29, 2009 by Epizikl Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 29, 2009 Author Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) hiya! great photos ghostrider! I know the guy who designed this modification...he will appreciate these photos! the insert cartridge pics appear to be from an Argentine mirage 5mara ;) (BTW love your mara mod for WOI!!!) here is a picture of the rear cartridges on the 23bn flare packets are "samp" from israel http://www.imi-israel.com/Product.aspx?Fol...9&docID=434 suicidal, ive never seen the rear lugs used for flare pods - do you have any pics? Edited June 29, 2009 by thedrummerguy Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Unfortunately, I personally interesting and worthy of the photo does not have ... Quote
+FLOGGER23 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Unfortunately, I personally interesting and worthy of the photo does not have ... I have a question to you, sir, regarding the different position from the BN related to MiG-27, i've been trying to modify it from the ini's unsuccesfully, so, do you have an idea how to do it? Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) Colleague FLOGGER23 (!) Unfortunately, I did not understand you ... Errors of translation, perhaps, to blame ... In the meantime, to answer that more has to change. Ini I worked ... Edited June 29, 2009 by Epizikl Quote
+FLOGGER23 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Colleague FLOGGER23 (!) Unfortunately, I did not understand you ... Errors of translation, perhaps, to blame ... In the meantime, to answer that more has to change. Ini I worked ... Sorry, my bad, i was meaning to the stance of the plane related to the ground, the MiG-23B/N has ha lower lail stance related to the MiG-27's, my apologies. Quote
+Epizikl Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Why FLOGGER23 (?) After all, what do you wish would not correspond to reality (!). Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 small update: added better tones for the skin :) Quote
thedrummerguy Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 underside colours done..getting very close to completion! Quote
+FLOGGER23 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Why FLOGGER23 (?) After all, what do you wish would not correspond to reality (!). Sorry to disagree, but it does; take a look in the tail area related to the ground: The MiG-23B/BN/BM, etc, the tail stance was like: http://images.google.com.sv/imgres?imgurl=...DN%26start%3D21 now the MiG-27 had a diference in that: http://images.google.com.sv/imgres?imgurl=...DN%26start%3D21 I tried to get pictures to show the relevant diference between types. I was told once that it was because the MiG-23BN had one more fuel tank (the MiG-23M/MF too) it had the lower tail stance, but i'm not too sure; now, you guys that know more than i, please tellme if it's possible to modify them? Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Sorry to disagree, but it does; take a look in the tail area related to the ground: [i tried to get pictures to show the relevant diference between types. I was told once that it was because the MiG-23BN had one more fuel tank (the MiG-23M/MF too) it had the lower tail stance, but i'm not too sure; now, you guys that know more than i, please tellme if it's possible to modify them? I think the low stance of 23MF/BN was due to low pressure tyres for operating from rough airfields. Quote
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