JimAttrill 24 Posted September 9, 2009 Once someone has answered this rather good 'Trivial pursuits' question (good, because it is more-or-less unGooglable) I have a question to ask the aviation fundis out there, especially the Germans as Richard Wagner was German, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted September 9, 2009 There was a pilot of that name, I saw in Wiki German. The composer died 1883 in Venice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimAttrill 24 Posted September 9, 2009 And what aeroplane did Richard Wagner fly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted September 9, 2009 Richard Wagner (* 22. Juni 1893 in Kiel; † 28. März 1935 Fliegertod auf dem Sims-See/Bayern) war ein deutscher Pilot. Er war Chefeinflieger bei der Dornier Metallbauten GmbH. Leben Richard Wagner kam am 7. August 1914 mit Beginn des ErstenWeltkriegs nach einer vierjährigen Lehre im Maschinen- und Explosionsmotorenbau als Freiwilliger zur 1. Seefliegerabteilung in <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel-Holtenau" title="Kiel-Holtenau">Kiel-Holtenau. Dort wurde er Fluglehrer und war während der Kriegsjahre 1917 und 1918 am Ägäischen Meer stationiert. Ab 1923 wurde Wagner als Einflieger der Dornier Metallbauten GmbH am Standort Marina di Pisa/Italien beschäftigt und wechselte 1925 zum Dornier Stammwerk nach Friedrichshafen. In den Jahren 1924 bis 1928 stellte Richard Wagner auf den Flugbooten der Baureihe Dornier-Waleinige fliegerische Weltrekorde auf, die die Fachwelt auf ihnaufmerksam machten, unter anderem flog er die 1700 Kilometer langeStrecke von Marina di Pisa nach Melilla ohne Zwischenlandung in zehn Stunden und brach damit den damals bestehenden Entfernungsrekord für Wasserflugzeuge. Bei einer Notlandung eines Wal-Flugbootes auf dem Simssee bei Rosenheimverunglückt Richard Wagner aufgrund der von Seefliegern so gefürchtetenGlattwassersituation am 28. März 1935 tödlich, weil er sich beimLandeanflug in der Höhe verschätzt hatte. Sorry, WIKI in English didn't have him. Short: he flew for DORNIER ; from 1924 to 1928 he flew some records on the DORNIER "Wal" seaplane. He died in an emergency landing on the Sims lake, through a "waveless water situation", which is feared by pilots, as you can hardly estimate your distance to the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hauksbee 103 Posted September 9, 2009 Richard Wagner (* 22. Juni 1893 in Kiel; † 28. März 1935 Fliegertod auf dem Sims-See/Bayern) war ein deutscher Pilot. Er war Chefeinflieger bei der Dornier Metallbauten GmbH..... Nice going, Olham! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimAttrill 24 Posted September 9, 2009 I never knew when he died, thanks for that. But he was the pilot of the Dornier DO-X which was the biggest aeroplane to fly for quite a few years. The question I want to ask of you all is whether the DO-X with 12 engines still holds the record for the most engines in one aircraft? I can't think of any other which gets to more than 8 - the B52 for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six 2 Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) I never knew when he died, thanks for that. But he was the pilot of the Dornier DO-X which was the biggest aeroplane to fly for quite a few years. The question I want to ask of you all is whether the DO-X with 12 engines still holds the record for the most engines in one aircraft? I can't think of any other which gets to more than 8 - the B52 for example. Spruce Goose only had 8...and that thing was/is massive. Ekranoplan likewise...8 and BIG Saunders-Roe Princess has 10 engines Hindenberg...even bigger, yet only 4 engines Personally, I see no need for that many engines. The more moving parts, the more that can go wrong, higher maintenance costs etc. Edited September 10, 2009 by Check Six Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimAttrill 24 Posted September 10, 2009 Well, engines in 1929 didn't have a lot of poke, so to get a gigantic thing like the DO-X off the water it needed a lot of engines. Also the engineer could get to the engines in flight to do maintenance of a sort. It originally had Siemens-built Bristol Jupiter radials of 524hp and was politically re-engined with Curtiss Conqueror 610hp water-cooled engines before its trip to the US. The water cooled engines being heavier, what with radiators and coolant, it didn't make much difference to the performance or lack of it. The DO-X flew across to Brazil, up the coast of the US to New York and back across the Atlantic, all at about 30 feet off the water in order to use the ground effect, or water effect in this case. I don't fancy the pilot's job flying that thing for hours at such a height. It was unfortunately destroyed in Berlin in WWII, along with most of the rest of Berlin. Sorry I got the date wrong, it first flew on 12th July 1929. But it does seem to have had more engines than any other aircraft ever built. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted September 10, 2009 Interesting find, cause linked to the Seeflieger Norderney thread: The Do X has visited the island Norderney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hauksbee 103 Posted September 10, 2009 The question I want to ask of you all is whether the DO-X with 12 engines still holds the record for the most engines in one aircraft? I was going to vote for the Caproni Ca.60, but it turned out to only have eight. [No wonder it couldn't lift off the water (LOL) ] I'll try to attach a slide show with some of the finest DO-X pics I ever seen. [Nope. Won't take a Power Point format] E-mail me at kelley02790@charter.net and I'll get it to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
