Piotr1975 0 Posted February 11, 2011 Hello everybody,im very big OFF fan.It have been more than 8months and i still dont now what system is the best for enjoing play OFF.I havent opportunity playing it yet because I dont now what system is best for OFF,just getting very confused!!! PLEASE can someone of you give me advice about system THANKS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 11, 2011 It's quite a bit of choices that are behind what you do http://www.overfland....com/sysreq.htm What country are you in, how much in dollars were looking to spend, will you be playing anything besides OFF, Is there anyone near you that's knowledgeable Because Basically OFF likes Speed more than it needs power Thanks for replay!!! I live in UK but im from Poland.I want to spend no more than 1200£.I now that dual core procesors are better than quadcores for OFF,i have no idea about graphic card,how much memory 2,4or8DDR3?What do you suggest?THANKS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted February 12, 2011 I suggest you listen to Tamper, Almcoyjr, Bird Dog ICT and Von Paulus and a couple of others........and then go buy your "stuff" Welcome to the Over Flanders Fields FORUM.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wodin 0 Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) £1200 is easly going to get you a rig to run it... My runs it and everyhting on high with FPS of between 33 to 59... AMDx3 @ 3.6 2 gig ram 4870 1 gig ATI Win7 64bit Hardly top range and OFF plays lovely....your £1200 will fly...here is the best place in the UK to buy and you can choose what you want.... http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ Edited February 12, 2011 by Wodin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted February 12, 2011 Once again..............Perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 12, 2011 £1200 is easly going to get you a rig to run it... My runs it and everyhting on high with FPS of between 33 to 59... AMDx3 @ 3.6 2 gig ram 4870 1 gig ATI Win7 64bit Hardly top range and OFF plays lovely....your £1200 will fly...here is the best place in the UK to buy and you can choose what you want.... http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ THANKS for advice i will order my PC from them(pc specialist) i have been in there last monday,i have spoken with one of managers there about the system for OFF.He suggest:AMD phenom IIx2 565 3.4Ghz ,4 gig ram 1600ddr3,gtx570 or gtx460 2gig.Thanks again. I recently got a rig built for OFF, I went i5 680@3.6 Ghtz-Dual Core 4GigRAM, Extra cooling for that CPU, but I only went for a GTX 260 But I couldn't afford any more. There's always tomorrow. Don't forget that 24" monitor But I used a custom builder, as you'll need to find in England. If my math was correct 1200 pounds is around 1900 Dollars. I had mine built for half of that, but I already had the monitor. I don't know the story over there, with the VAT and all that kind of speed you won't find on the shelf I'm a big fan of more Power Pack than is needed, they suggested 600, I used a 750 Only suggestion is . . .if an extra cost shipping is available GET IT . . . The shippers are careful but it's mighty cold at 20,000 feet. Today Everything goes Air Freight . . . Motherboards crack very easy when they're cold . . . With a Big Video card Hanging on them THANKS for advice!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 12, 2011 I suggest you listen to Tamper, Almcoyjr, Bird Dog ICT and Von Paulus and a couple of others........and then go buy your "stuff" Welcome to the Over Flanders Fields FORUM.... THANKS for kind advice!!!!! Im very happy to join OFF forum,cheers!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 12, 2011 I recently got a rig built for OFF, I went i5 680@3.6 Ghtz-Dual Core 4GigRAM, Extra cooling for that CPU, but I only went for a GTX 260 But I couldn't afford any more. There's always tomorrow. Don't forget that 24" monitor But I used a custom builder, as you'll need to find in England. If my math was correct 1200 pounds is around 1900 Dollars. I had mine built for half of that, but I already had the monitor. I don't know the story over there, with the VAT and all that kind of speed you won't find on the shelf I'm a big fan of more Power Pack than is needed, they suggested 600, I used a 750 Only suggestion is . . .if an extra cost shipping is available GET IT . . . The shippers are careful but it's mighty cold at 20,000 feet. Today Everything goes Air Freight . . . Motherboards crack very easy when they're cold . . . With a Big Video card Hanging on them Hello and THANKS for advice!!! 24"monitor 1200x1900 res. any suggestion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wodin 0 Posted February 13, 2011 get a 2ms screen aswell rather than the most common 5ms...I have a 19inch 2ms LG which I choose rather than a larger screen at 5ms... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted February 13, 2011 Be very wary of 2,3,5ms LCD "screens"; very deceptive marketing tactic and not true engineering mojo. The 2ms rate is an average of gray-to-gray scale only and doesn't represent the true response rate in rendering dynamic color changes. You "simply" want an LCD the doesn't ghost 32bit pallet. There is no TRUE 2ms anything, glass or LCD. The only technology that comes close is yet-to-be-developed liquid crystal. To approach 2ms rate is equal to 500hz +. It's going to be hard to find an LCD that offers 1920x1200 native support that won't break your budget. Wodin: +1 on pcspecialist. Trialed both AMD and Intel; very reasonable for builds with very good components. For my 5cents,don't use the standard Windows defragger. Get either O&O Defrag or Disktrix Ultimate 3 Defrag. Both have the ability to actually place an app to a specific location on the hard drive. You can set OFF on the outside of the disk, followed by page file, Windows and then other apps. I use UD3 because it has some extra features; however, some of the options can really screw up performance, or worse, if you're not careful. Have a good time "OFFing" your opponents. plug_nickel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 13, 2011 get a 2ms screen aswell rather than the most common 5ms...I have a 19inch 2ms LG which I choose rather than a larger screen at 5ms... Thanks for advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 13, 2011 Be very wary of 2,3,5ms LCD "screens"; very deceptive marketing tactic and not true engineering mojo. The 2ms rate is an average of gray-to-gray scale only and doesn't represent the true response rate in rendering dynamic color changes. You "simply" want an LCD the doesn't ghost 32bit pallet. There is no TRUE 2ms anything, glass or LCD. The only technology that comes close is yet-to-be-developed liquid crystal. To approach 2ms rate is equal to 500hz +. It's going to be hard to find an LCD that offers 1920x1200 native support that won't break your budget. Wodin: +1 on pcspecialist. Trialed both AMD and Intel; very reasonable for builds with very good components. For my 5cents,don't use the standard Windows defragger. Get either O&O Defrag or Disktrix Ultimate 3 Defrag. Both have the ability to actually place an app to a specific location on the hard drive. You can set OFF on the outside of the disk, followed by page file, Windows and then other apps. I use UD3 because it has some extra features; however, some of the options can really screw up performance, or worse, if you're not careful. Have a good time "OFFing" your opponents. plug_nickel Hi thanks for help.Im going to order system this week,but i still got few doubts : AMD phenomii x2 565 3.4ghz or Intell i5 680 3.6Ghz ? , 4GB DDR3 or 8GB DDR3 ? , GTX460,GTX470,GTX570? , Power supply 650,750,850Corsair? and what case do you suggest(pcspecialist they offer a few good)?. Please could you give me advice , THANKS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) I'm afraid I won't be much help with AMD or with ATI/AMD video cards. I left AMD in '06 and have always used a Nvidia card since the first Geforce. On the Intel side, I'd look very closely at the LGA 1366 socket. Checkout the different motherboards and make sure they have SLI support for future upgrading. For a cpu, I'd compare pricing for a I7-920, 930 and 950. The 920/30 can be nicely overclocked as can the 950. PCSpecialist was advertising a special on the GTX470 card they use. Compare it to the 460 and then to the 570 to keep the pricing honest. You'll be able to see if in fact the 470 offers the "best-bang-for-buck". The 460 is no "slouch", but if it's priced comparable to the 470, then the 470 is the better of the two. You'll have to determine if the 570 is within your budget. I would stay with 4gb DDR3 dual channel or 6gb if triple channel. 8gb dual or 12gb triple will be of no benefit unless you're going to be doing some very intensive rendering, streaming, editing or....applications. Go with a minimum 750watt PSU, 80% if available, and make sure it will handle 2x470's at the minimum. The HAF 922 case, IMHO, is the best among those that are offered by the builder. And don't forget to ask the builder about filters for the case. Hope this helps. plug_nickel Edited February 14, 2011 by almccoyjr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 14, 2011 I'm afraid I won't be much help with AMD or with ATI/AMD video cards. I left AMD in '06 and have always used a Nvidia card since the first Geforce. On the Intel side, I'd look very closely at the LGA 1366 socket. Checkout the different motherboards and make sure they have SLI support for future upgrading. For a cpu, I'd compare pricing for a I7-920, 930 and 950. The 920/30 can be nicely overclocked as can the 950. PCSpecialist was advertising a special on the GTX470 card they use. Compare it to the 460 and then to the 570 to keep the pricing honest. You'll be able to see if in fact the 470 offers the "best-bang-for-buck". The 460 is no "slouch", but if it's priced comparable to the 470, then the 470 is the better of the two. You'll have to determine if the 570 is within your budget. I would stay with 4gb DDR3 dual channel or 6gb if triple channel. 8gb dual or 12gb triple will be of no benefit unless you're going to be doing some very intensive rendering, streaming, editing or....applications. Go with a minimum 750watt PSU, 80% if available, and make sure it will handle 2x470's at the minimum. The HAF 922 case, IMHO, is the best among those that are offered by the builder. And don't forget to ask the builder about filters for the case. Hope this helps. plug_nickel Thanks!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr1975 0 Posted February 14, 2011 Something which sounds minor, yet can effect you greatly. You've made your mind on the CPU ,RAM, Video Card, Motherboard, Hard Drive, and Power Supply. Now comes the question of where are you going to put that tower. If you use a computer desk does it fit ? Most of the Mid Tower ( Gaming ) Cases Will, although some will be tight. It makes little sense to buy a top fan case with only 3/4" Clearance The Full towers won't fit period Here in Florida I'm concerned which direction are my fans running. My 2 Huge 120mm fans in my side are venting to atmosphere, but if I put it inside my desk, they vent to a solid wood wall ( Press Board ) Little time with a tape measure, and Googleing the name of the case works wonders Yes you absolutely right,i will get more information about that.THANKS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) Something which sounds minor, yet can effect you greatly. You've made your mind on the CPU ,RAM, Video Card, Motherboard, Hard Drive, and Power Supply. Now comes the question of where are you going to put that tower. If you use a computer desk does it fit ? Most of the Mid Tower ( Gaming ) Cases Will, although some will be tight. It makes little sense to buy a top fan case with only 3/4" Clearance The Full towers won't fit period Here in Florida I'm concerned which direction are my fans running. My 2 Huge 120mm fans in my side are venting to atmosphere, but if I put it inside my desk, they vent to a solid wood wall ( Press Board ) Little time with a tape measure, and Googleing the name of the case works wonders And inevitably, there's that often overlooked but most critical technical question "Which side of the desk should he rest his coffee on?" My advice would be the left side. That way he won't run the risk of knocking it over with any rapid mouse movements.....unless of course he's left handed, in which case he could always turn his desk 180 degrees ... Edited February 15, 2011 by Parky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted February 15, 2011 And inevitably, there's that often overlooked but most critical technical question "Which side of the desk should he rest his coffee on?" My advice would be the left side. That way he won't run the risk of knocking it over with any rapid mouse movements.....unless of course he's left handed, in which case he could always turn his desk 180 degrees ... Would that be clockwise or counter-clockwise? Makes a difference if the desk is L-shaped. plug_nickel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted February 15, 2011 I'll bet you a beer that it doesn't.....lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted February 15, 2011 I'll bet you a beer that it doesn't.....lol Just checkin' to see if you had had any morning joe.... plug_nickel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
