Gunnar88

well... i tried to make an aircraft by those tutorials... but this is only low polygon "wanna-be" aircraft... Is anyone willing to make a video tutorial on how to make an really good high polygon external of a airplane in 3D Max (Or any other 3D program) for WOE/WOV/WOI ? Or just to show some tricks (For example, i have problems modeling the air intake on jets)

But i am interested in those video tutorials... can you send me a link to them... or... do you have them somewhere for download... ;)

OK... i will make models of J-21 and G-2... I'm taking the modeling of externals to myself... i don't know how exactly... but i have 3D Max... and with few tutorials, and trial and error... i will make it somehow...

heh... i have luck... because my friend will give me 3D Max... I think i stay with 3D Max, my friend recommends it...

Hi there... This is a question for all modelers I am interested into learning how to create models... Which program are you using and where can i find general information how to create or modify existing aircraft? I know that it is funny what i am asking, because i know how much work this takes... I am an Multimedia Technician... Video, audio, and picture modifying are in my job... but modeling... that is something i wish to learn... So... Can anyone help me?

thx M8... we also need a skin or 2 for the MIG-21 BIS model of YUAF

Ok.. i have found an model that is at closest simmiliar to G-2 and J-21 Link: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7508 It needs to look loke this: G-2 Galeb and almost the same plane but only with 1 seat and little adjustments(attack version) J-21

a big map... nice... i have some knowledge with texturing... du you need any help?

i will make it myself if needed... but any help is appreciated I have some knowledge for programing and texture making, but modeling is not my skill :(

Hi there... you may have seen that we are planing to make a "Yugoslavian wars" mod... So we need willfull modelers which can make models of following planes: J-21 "Jastreb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-21_jastreb <-- looks similiar to MB-339 G-2 "Galeb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-2_Galeb <- It looks exactly like jastreb, but has 2 seats, and was reccon/training... also used for ground attack role J-22 "Orao" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-22_Orao <-- Looks similiar to Folland Gnat G-4 "Super Galeb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-4_Super_Galeb Those planes look very familiar to other planes for which there are models... so they only need to be modified (Offcourse, only with author approval)

I think it would be nice to fly J-21 Jastrebs, and G-2 Galebs of the YUAF in ground attack missions...

Hehe... we can create more campaigns for YUAF... like Brain said... the crisis with SSSR and Bulgaria... This is a begining of a new game ... "WINGS OVER YUGOSLAVIA" or "WINGS OVER BALKAN"...

Hi there... for all moder, modelers, texturers, map builders... Tell me what do you think of this idea... would you like to help us? Link: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...mp;#entry216945

i agree macelena... so... lets unite to make this Campaign, or should i say MOD, possible :) Any volunteers to help us? We need 3d modelers, texturers, map builders etc.... OH!!!!! I almost forgot... we can make Serbian and Croatian pilot conversation... :)

Oh... yes.. and one more question... should we make cockpits for some of those new planes? (J-21,J-22,G-2,G4) Because, as Brain32 said... we could use some of those planes for other Yugoslav campaigns, not just the 1995...

We need to achive those 4 things if we want the campaing to be fun" 1. Models of planes missing...(It is far more better to see a real J-22 or J-21/G-2 than a cheep copy ) 2. Balkan Terrain... Brain32... i think we have a job for you if you are willing to do it :)... can you please post some screens of your balkan map... 4.All that balance betwen forces. (So that it is fair for all sides but still with lot of action and dogfight) 3. Political and "ethnical" neutrality (The problem is that for many people in those countries this theme is quite emotional... because this war was not so long ago... and it should be fair to all "combatants" croats, serbs, bosniaks, etc...) We need to say that so that people don't get the wrong idea that we are spreading someones propaganda...

Well.. we can add few more fulcrums to the serbian AF... and lets asume they have been trained by russians, because russia is to serbia like a big brother... So the serbian pilots would be a very tough oposition... wait... just let me check the status of the YUAF in year 1990... how much planes they got... OK... here is the list of historical SFR Yugoslav Air Force Operational Inventory, 1990 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 Fishbed MiG-21Bis/MF/M = 100 MiG-21UM/US = 14 MIG-21R = 10 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum MiG-29A = 14 MiG-29UB = 2 Soko J-20 Kraguj = 40 SOKO J-22 Orao = 53 SOKO G-2 Galeb = 131 SOKO G-4 Super Galeb = 88 Soko J-21 Jastreb = 108 Wiki link to YUAF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFR_Yugoslav_Air_Force

Well... I am happy that there is so much response... In my opinion i agree with thunderchief... there were no aerial battles... but for the "Joy" of playing, we could "bend" the history a little bit... lets say.. that Yugoslavia reacted at operation "Storm" (At which it did not in real history) that would place croatia and Yugoslavia in a state of war (Although they never declared war upon each other... This is a complicated situation, and if you want to know more just go to Wikipedia, and look up "Yugoslavian wars"), the NATO would react... probably in the favor of the Croats... (This would be good because Croatia only had about 30 - 35 MIG-21bis) Lets assume the Yugoslavian had MIG-29's in good condition (Although they only had 16 MIG-29, they had lots of MIG-21, J-22 "Oraos", G-4"Super Galebs") That's why we need to make this planes... so that the balance of the forces is somehow even, but without bending the historical accuracy to far... I don't want to be historically accurate for missions, or political situations, but purely "AIRPLANES"... With this rules... Croatia would have an good, and well trained air force (This is historically true because we made a modern air force in 4 years, and that was thought to be impossible for such a young country, and in so little time), the Yugoslavia would also have a very strong air force with all those migs, oraos, jastrebs, galebs, etc... AND... there would be NATO... Some F-14 "Tomcats" but not too much... so that Croatia, and NATO are united against Yugoslavia, but we can not make NATO and Croatia too strong... We just add NATO to even the ods betwen Yu and CRO... After all, they are the main combatants, and the fight is over their territory... That is my idea... P.S. I see that Gnats and MB-339 are very similar to jastrebs and galebs... Would you like to share those models with us, so we can ask their authors if we can change their models so that they look exactly like oraos and galebs? (off course, if we find willing modelers...) I think because they look similiar, there should be less trouble in changing the model than making it from scrap... What do yu think of that?

Hi there... i have an idea for a campaing... "Yugoslav wars" August 4, 1995 ... Croatia has started its long prepared operations "Storm" and "Flash" ("Oluja" and "Bljesak") Croatian MIG-21bis are attacking the rebel Serb targets on Croatian territory... The Yugoslav goverment is not pleased with those operations at all... so the "Yugoslavian Air Force" engages croatian airplanes on their own teritory... Watching this... the NATO start bombing Serbian tagets in Yugoslavia from their carrier force in Adriatic sea (This is a historical event... Only that the yugoslav goverment did not send airplanes, and NATO started bombing Yugoslavia few years later, but for the "effect" of the campaing... i would be intresting to set it this way...) Here is the link for historical "Operatin Sorm": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm a part of "Croatian war for Independence" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence And a link for this whole sh** of war that happened here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_wars And for the NATO bombings of yugoslavia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Allied_Force There will be some good dogfights with serbian MIG-29... And... also there will be needed some new planes... so, any free modelers? Here are the planes that need to be created from scratch or created from models of other similiar aircraft... J-21 "Jastreb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-21_jastreb G-2 "Galeb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-2_Galeb <- It looks exactly like jastreb, but has 2 seats, and was reccon/training... also used for ground attack role J-22 "Orao" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-22_Orao G-4 "Super Galeb" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-4_Super_Galeb Those planes look very familiar to other planes for which there are models... so they only need to be modified (Offcourse, only with author approval) So... tell me... what do you think?

Thank you M8... now i have a fine croatian air force... THX!!!

Well... how? I have tga files... but dont know where to put them and where to assign them to my airforce... This is my NATIONS.ini [Nation145] Name=Croatia DisplayName=Croatian Air Force and Defense Alignment=FRIENDLY PilotNameList=NamesYugoslavian.lst RankList=RanksUSAF.lst CallsignList=CallsignsUS.lst Formation.Fighter=SovietFighter Formation.Attack=SovietFighter Formation.Bomber=SovietBomber Formation.Transport=SovietBomber Formation.Tank=SovietTank Formation.MobileAD=SovietAD PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL GenderRatio=0 DebriefSuccessMusic=DebriefSuccess.wav DebriefFailMusic=DebriefFail.wav DebriefKilledMusic=DebriefKilled.wav SpeechFile=USAFSpeech.cat SpeechTextFile=USAFSpeechText.str StartDate=1941

Well... how? what do i need to modify to create "Croatian air force"? And to add roundels...

YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.... THX M8... NOW I CAN FINALY MY MIG-21 WITHOUT PROBLEMS...

Thank you guys... You realy helped me out... but can anyone tell me how to fix this! and this... It is MiG-21MF Fishbed-J in WoV... I tried every possible cockpit i could find and always the same... If anyone knows how to fix this please tell me... img00002.bmp

Can somebody PLEASE!!! Show me the way to a very good mig-21 FLYABLE mod.... i want to fly this plane SO BADLY... but i cant cuz i am stupid and i cant find any mod to make it flyable... I am looking for a mod to make it flyable in "W.o.-Vietnam" and "W.o.-Israel" THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! I OWE YOU BIG TIME