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I have finally got all my MIG-21's flying right, with good pits(thanks Mago, Badger & Fubar).

 

Only problem I see with them (F, MF, PFM, PFV) is non seem to have working Airlerons.

 

Heres one of the entries from the Mig-21F....Data.ini

 

 

[LeftAileron]

SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE

InputName=ROLL_CONTROL

MaxDeflection=30.0

MinDeflection=-30.0

CDdc=0.0243

Cldc=0.0206

Cndc=-0.0010

CldcAlphaTableNumData=15

CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CldcAlphaTableData=0.000,0.110,0.336,0.673,0.890,0.980,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.980,0.890,0.673,0.336,0.110,0.000

CndcAlphaTableNumData=15

CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CndcAlphaTableData=1.644,1.537,1.429,1.322,1.215,1.107,1.000,0.893,1.000,1.107,1.215,1.322,1.429,1.537,1.644

ControlRate=5.0

MaxControlSpeed=200

ModelNodeName=Left_Aileron

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

 

Can someone advise if these are supposed to be animated in the game?

Posted
I have finally got all my MIG-21's flying right, with good pits(thanks Mago, Badger & Fubar).

 

Only problem I see with them (F, MF, PFM, PFV) is non seem to have working Airlerons.

 

Heres one of the entries from the Mig-21F....Data.ini

[LeftAileron]

SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE

InputName=ROLL_CONTROL

MaxDeflection=30.0

MinDeflection=-30.0

CDdc=0.0243

Cldc=0.0206

Cndc=-0.0010

CldcAlphaTableNumData=15

CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CldcAlphaTableData=0.000,0.110,0.336,0.673,0.890,0.980,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.980,0.890,0.673,0.336,0.110,0.000

CndcAlphaTableNumData=15

CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CndcAlphaTableData=1.644,1.537,1.429,1.322,1.215,1.107,1.000,0.893,1.000,1.107,1.215,1.322,1.429,1.537,1.644

ControlRate=5.0

MaxControlSpeed=200

ModelNodeName=Left_Aileron

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

 

Can someone advise if these are supposed to be animated in the game?

 

Those do not look like the figures for the '21F13's control surfaces. The following are the values for the left aileron:

 

[LeftAileron]

SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE

InputName=ROLL_CONTROL

MaxDeflection=20.0

MinDeflection=-20.0

CDdc=0.0243

Cldc=0.0270

Cndc=-0.0011

CldcAlphaTableNumData=15

CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CldcAlphaTableData=0.565,0.850,0.987,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.987,0.850,0.565

CndcAlphaTableNumData=15

CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CndcAlphaTableData=1.420,1.920,1.981,1.756,1.504,1.252,1.000,0.748,1.000,1.252,1.504,1.756,1.981,1.920,1.420

ControlRate=3.5

MaxControlSpeed=180

ModelNodeName=LeftAileron

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

 

As to why there's no animation in your case, I cannot say without looking through that FM. I will say one thing, all of the animaitions on mine work.

Posted

Do all of you Mig-21's work?

 

I might have switched the Data.ini file for one mig-21 to this one, can't remember. But I know

I haven't changed values on anything.....settings are on medium, would that have effect?

All other birds have ailerons working except Mig-21's.

 

Here's my MF: (looks the same doesn't it)

 

[LeftAileron]

SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE

InputName=ROLL_CONTROL

MaxDeflection=30.0

MinDeflection=-30.0

CDdc=0.0243

Cldc=0.0206

Cndc=-0.0010

CldcAlphaTableNumData=15

CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CldcAlphaTableData=0.000,0.110,0.336,0.673,0.890,0.980,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.980,0.890,0.673,0.336,0.110,0.000

CndcAlphaTableNumData=15

CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CndcAlphaTableData=1.644,1.537,1.429,1.322,1.215,1.107,1.000,0.893,1.000,1.107,1.215,1.322,1.429,1.537,1.644

ControlRate=5.0

MaxControlSpeed=200

ModelNodeName=Left_Aileron

ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE

Posted

Left outerwing from Mig-21F

 

[LeftOuterWing]

ParentComponentName=LeftWing

ModelNodeName=LeftOuterWing

ShowFromCockpit=TRUE

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

DamageRating=DISABLED

MassFraction=0.041

HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE

LiftSurface=TRUE

CL0=0.0273

CLa=1.0443

CD0=0.0006

CDL=0.0052

Cmq=-0.1393

Cmad=-0.0306

Clb=0.0320

Clp=-0.0699

Clr=0.0428

Cnb=0.0758

Cnp=0.0037

Cnr=-0.0057

CL0MachTableNumData=4

CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CL0MachTableStartX=0.00

CL0MachTableData=0.971,1.000,1.113,1.194

CLaMachTableNumData=4

CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CLaMachTableStartX=0.00

CLaMachTableData=0.959,1.000,1.158,1.244

CD0MachTableNumData=4

CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40

CD0MachTableStartX=0.00

CD0MachTableData=1.833,1.000,1.047,15.740

CDLAlphaTableNumData=15

CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CDLAlphaTableData=23.619,17.016,11.491,7.045,3.678,1.390,0.181,0.051,1.000,3.028,6.134,10.320,15.585,21.928,29.350

CmqMachTableNumData=4

CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40

CmqMachTableStartX=0.00

CmqMachTableData=0.880,1.000,1.948,11.929

ClbAlphaTableNumData=15

ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClbAlphaTableData=0.117,0.227,0.338,0.448,0.559,0.669,0.779,0.890,1.000,1.110,1.221,1.331,1.441,1.552,1.662

ClpAlphaTableNumData=15

ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClpAlphaTableData=9.577,7.132,5.078,3.418,2.149,1.273,0.790,0.699,1.000,1.694,2.780,4.259,6.130,8.393,11.049

ClrAlphaTableNumData=15

ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

ClrAlphaTableData=-4.833,-4.104,-3.375,-2.646,-1.917,-1.187,-0.458,0.271,1.000,1.729,2.458,3.187,3.917,4.646,5.375

CnpAlphaTableNumData=15

CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnpAlphaTableData=-90.333,-56.223,-32.643,-17.241,-8.000,-3.136,-1.025,-0.141,1.000,3.886,10.060,21.173,39.048,65.757,103.727

CnrAlphaTableNumData=15

CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00

CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00

CnrAlphaTableData=16.448,11.706,7.767,4.631,2.298,0.769,0.043,0.120,1.000,2.683,5.170,8.460,12.553,17.450,23.149

XacMachTableNumData=4

XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40

XacMachTableStartX=0.00

XacMachTableData=-0.263,-0.264,-0.294,-0.859

CheckStall=TRUE

CLmax=0.4904

AlphaStall=16.15

AlphaMax=22.04

AlphaDepart=28.92

StallMoment=-0.01

Ymac=-1.92

MinExtentPosition= -2.15,-3.59, 0.01

MaxExtentPosition= -3.83,-1.63,-0.15

CollisionPoint[001]=-3.83,-3.11,-0.14

CollisionPoint[002]=-3.83,-3.59,-0.14

HasVortexEmitter=TRUE

VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter

VortexPosition=-3.827,-3.114,-0.128

VortexG=2.5

SystemName[001]=LeftAileron

SystemName[002]=LeftWingStation

SystemName[003]=LeftPositionLight

Posted

Thanks. The entries for the ailerons are present, and judging by the other values, this looks like an FM from last summer/early fall. I have newer ones that I'll package and upload as soon as SP4 & WoE are released.

Posted

Thx Fubar....

 

They fly just fine....Pits are great.....Just noticed this problem and wanted to know if I was nuts or what.

 

 

I leave them alone, and wait. No big deal.

 

I appreciate your quick look see.

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