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Manpad SAM problems

By Firehawk, in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - General Discussion

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Firehawk
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Hi everybody!

 

I wanted to know if someone could help me out with the following: I have installed the SAMs that come with the Mirage Factory weapons pack, among them the SA-7 grail and a Stinger Site but I cant for some reason make them fire missiles at aircraft that should actually be in range of their weapons and in good aspect (engines pointed at IR sensor). Furthermore I have on the basis of these 2 SAMs made my own SA-14 / -16 and -18s as well as a Redeye and a FIM-92C Stinger Site which wont fire either. They all just turn and point their launchers at bogies but wont launch :dntknw:

 

I have made sure that the correct weapon is assigned in the SAMs "data.ini" file and have adjusted the weapon properties via the editor accordingly. Did I overlook some vital parameter in there somewhere maybe!? I'm posting the RedeyeSite and SA-18 data.inis here:

 

(MissionData)

NationName=USMC

ServiceStartYear=1968

ServiceEndYear=1981

GroundObjectRole=STATIC_AAA

Availability=COMMON

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1968

ExportAvailability=COMMON

 

(GroundObjectData)

DamagedModel=

DestroyedModel=DHardRedeyeL.LOD

DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect

EmptyMass=19000.00

Component(001)=Base

Component(002)=Body

Component(003)=StingerL

 

(Sound)

EngineSoundName=

MovementSoundName=

 

(DetectSystem)

TargetType=AIR

DataLink=FALSE

OpticalSight=TRUE

NightSight=TRUE

VisualRange=4500.00

;2000.0

ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30

MaxVisibleDistance=3000.0

RadarCrossSection=1

 

(WeaponSystem)

TargetType=AIR

MissileRange=4500.00

MinMissileRange=600.00

PitchAngleRate=8

MaxPitch=80.0

MinPitch=5.0

DefaultPitchAngle=30.0

YawAngleRate=30

YawLimited=FALSE

MinYaw=

MaxYaw=

DefaultYawAngle=0

MissileLaunchTime=19.5

YawModelNodeName=Body

PitchModelNodeName=StingerL

 

(MovementSystem)

MaxRoadSpeed=0.0

MaxOffRoadSpeed=0.0

PowerAvailable=1

MaxTurnRate=16.0

MaxDeceleration=5.0

SuspensionConstant=14.0

MovementEmitterName=

MovementEmitterPosition=

 

(Base)

ModelNodeName=Base

MaxExtentPosition= 1.36, 2.70, 2.06

MinExtentPosition=-1.36,-2.03, 0.00

HasArmor=TRUE

ArmorMaterial=FIBERGLASS

;WOOD

Armor(FRONT).Thickness=10

Armor(RIGHT).Thickness=10

Armor(LEFT).Thickness=10

Armor(REAR).Thickness=10

Armor(TOP).Thickness=0

Armor(BOTTOM).Thickness=6

SystemName(001)=Engine

 

(Engine)

SystemType=ENGINE

MaxExtentPosition= 0.88, 2.70, 1.22

MinExtentPosition=-0.88, 1.27, 0.37

 

(Body)

ModelNodeName=Body

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

EffectSize=1.0

MaxExtentPosition= 0.61, 0.75, 3.04

MinExtentPosition=-0.61,-0.52, 1.88

HasArmor=FALSE

SystemName(001)=Launcher

 

(StingerL)

ModelNodeName=StingerL

MaxExtentPosition= 0.39, 0.20, 1.82

MinExtentPosition=-0.39,-0.70, 0.00

HasArmor=FALSE

SystemName(001)=Missile1

SystemName(002)=Missile2

SystemName(003)=Missile3

SystemName(004)=Missile4

SystemName(005)=Missile5

SystemName(006)=Missile6

SystemName(007)=Missile7

SystemName(008)=Missile8

 

(Missile1)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=1

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile2)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=2

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile3)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=3

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile4)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=4

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile5)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=5

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile6)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=6

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile7)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=7

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(Missile8)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=8

WeaponTypeName=FIM-43C

WeaponPosition=0.70,2.24,2.06

ShowMissile=TRUE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

(MissionData)

NationName=SOVIET

ServiceStartYear=1983

ServiceEndYear=2010

GroundObjectRole=Static_AAA

Availability=COMMON

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1983

ExportAvailability=COMMON

 

(GroundObjectData)

DamagedModel=

DestroyedModel=

DestroyedEffect=

EmptyMass=80.00

Component(001)=Box01

Component(002)=Body

Component(003)=Launcher

 

(Sound)

EngineSoundName=

MovementSoundName=

 

(DetectSystem)

TargetType=AIR

DataLink=FALSE

OpticalSight=TRUE

NightSight=FALSE

VisualRange=4500.0

ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,1.70

MaxVisibleDistance=3000.0

RadarCrossSection=1

 

(WeaponSystem)

TargetType=AIR

MissileRange=5600.000000

MinMissileRange=200.000000

PitchAngleRate=50

MaxPitch=80.0

MinPitch=5.0

DefaultPitchAngle=20.0

YawAngleRate=50

YawLimited=FALSE

MinYaw=

MaxYaw=

DefaultYawAngle=0

MissileLaunchTime=1.5

YawModelNodeName=Body

PitchModelNodeName=Launcher

 

(MovementSystem)

MaxRoadSpeed=2.4

MaxOffRoadSpeed=2

PowerAvailable=1

MaxTurnRate=16.0

MaxDeceleration=5.0

SuspensionConstant=14.0

MovementEmitterName=

MovementEmitterPosition=

 

(Box01)

ModelNodeName=Box01

MaxExtentPosition= 1.36, 2.70, 2.06

MinExtentPosition=-1.36,-2.03, 0.00

HasArmor=FALSE

ArmorMaterial=

Armor(FRONT).Thickness=10

Armor(RIGHT).Thickness=10

Armor(LEFT).Thickness=10

Armor(REAR).Thickness=10

Armor(TOP).Thickness=0

Armor(BOTTOM).Thickness=6

SystemName(001)=Engine

 

(Body)

ModelNodeName=Body

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

EffectSize=1.0

MaxExtentPosition= 0.61, 0.75, 3.04

MinExtentPosition=-0.61,-0.52, 1.88

HasArmor=FALSE

SystemName(001)=Launcher

 

(Engine)

SystemType=ENGINE

MaxExtentPosition= 0.88, 2.70, 1.22

MinExtentPosition=-0.88, 1.27, 0.37

 

(Launcher)

ModelNodeName=Launcher

MaxExtentPosition= 0.39, 0.20, 1.82

MinExtentPosition=-0.39,-0.70, 0.00

HasArmor=FALSE

SystemName(001)=Missile

 

(Missile)

SystemType=MISSILE

MissileID=1

WeaponTypeName=SA-18

WeaponPosition=0.16,-0.10,1.4

ShowMissile=FALSE

IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

 

[ and ] tags are ( and ) respectively

 

Everything besides the Manpads is working ingame, wether SA5s, SA3s, SA13s, Tor-1s, etc... :dntknw:

 

PS: I'm using a combined WoV/WoE installed patched to the lastest standards and the July06 weaponspack (plus the objects from the MF pack)

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!! :yes:

Edited by Firehawk

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Firehawk    0

Firehawk
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Ah, might as well put the weapon attributes in here:

 

TypeName=FIM-43C

FullName=FIM-43C Redeye

ModelName=Stinger

Mass=8.300000

Diameter=0.069000

Length=1.470000

AttachmentType=

NationName=USMC

StartYear=1968

EndYear=1980

Availability=3

BaseQuantity=18

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1968

ExportEndYear=1980

ExportAvailability=3

WeaponDataType=1

RailLaunched=TRUE

RocketPod=FALSE

Retarded=FALSE

Streamlined=TRUE

FinStabilized=TRUE

SpinStabilized=TRUE

HasGrowl=TRUE

EffectClassName=SmallMissileEffects

ReleaseDelay=0.000000

WarheadType=0

Explosives=1.060000

FusingDistance=0.500000

ClusterBomblets=0

ClusterDispersion=0.000000

GuidanceType=10

Accuracy=60

MaxTurnRate=14.000000

MaxLaunchG=22.000000

LockonChance=60

LaunchReliability=85

ArmingTime=0.500000

SeekerFOV=4.500000

SeekerGimbleLimit=25.000000

SeekerTrackRate=11.000000

SeekerRange=4500.000000

MinLaunchRange=600.000000

MaxLaunchRange=4500.000000

Duration=35.000000

CounterCountermeasure=15.000000

NoiseRejection=15.000000

CapabilityFlags=0x10000110

BoosterStart=0.000000

BoosterDuration=0.500000

BoosterAccel=27.500000

BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect

BoosterSoundName=Missile

BoosterNodeName=Booster

BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.150000,0.000000

SustainerDuration=5.800000

SustainerAccel=9.150000

SustainerEffectName=MissileFireEffect

SustainerSoundName=Missile

SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.150000,0.000000

InFlightEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect

InFlightSoundName=

ReleaseAnimationID=1

ReleaseAnimationTime=0.500000

ReleaseAnimationDelay=0.500000

EODisplayFlags=0

 

TypeName=SA-18

FullName=SA-18 Grouse

ModelName=SA-7

Mass=10.600000

Diameter=0.072000

Length=1.450000

AttachmentType=

NationName=SOVIET

StartYear=1983

EndYear=2020

Availability=3

BaseQuantity=18

Exported=TRUE

ExportStartYear=1983

ExportEndYear=2020

ExportAvailability=3

WeaponDataType=1

RailLaunched=TRUE

RocketPod=FALSE

Retarded=FALSE

Streamlined=TRUE

FinStabilized=TRUE

SpinStabilized=TRUE

HasGrowl=TRUE

EffectClassName=SmallMissileEffects

ReleaseDelay=0.000000

WarheadType=0

Explosives=2.000000

FusingDistance=0.500000

ClusterBomblets=0

ClusterDispersion=0.000000

GuidanceType=10

Accuracy=95

MaxTurnRate=30.000000

MaxLaunchG=3.000000

LockonChance=95

LaunchReliability=85

ArmingTime=0.500000

SeekerFOV=9.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=45.000000

SeekerTrackRate=35.000000

SeekerRange=5600.000000

MinLaunchRange=200.000000

MaxLaunchRange=5600.000000

Duration=35.000000

CounterCountermeasure=45.000000

NoiseRejection=45.000000

CapabilityFlags=0x100004d0

BoosterStart=0.000000

BoosterDuration=0.500000

BoosterAccel=27.500000

BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect

BoosterSoundName=Missile

BoosterNodeName=

BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.150000,0.000000

SustainerDuration=5.800000

SustainerAccel=14.150000

SustainerEffectName=MissileFireEffect

SustainerSoundName=Missile

SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.150000,0.000000

InFlightEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect

InFlightSoundName=

ReleaseAnimationID=-1

EODisplayFlags=0

 

Hope that might also clear things up!! :biggrin:

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+Crusader    2,101

Crusader
Posted

The MF weapon pack Stinger does work for sure.

 

Your first datablock ( Redeye I think) with the 8 missiles should work, put it into a single mission and you'll see

Your 2nd datablock ( SA-18) has ShowMissile= set to FALSE, that doesnt work, it must be set to TRUE ( as on the Radeye datablock)

Check for the FALSE/TRUE in your other non-working launchers too.

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Firehawk    0

Firehawk
Posted

Thanks for your reply and for pointing that out!

 

I thought that the "show missile" command only represents a visual parameter and determines wether or not the missile is shown on the launch platform, as the SA-18 is tube launched I thought I could as well switch that off because it wont be visible anyway...

 

Gonna switch it back on to "TRUE" and see if it helps! :biggrin::good:

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Firehawk
Posted

Wow they do work now! Thanks a lot for the help :biggrin:

 

Gonna have to keep an eye out for those trigger-happy Igla gunners :blink:

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