+lindr2 Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 I can't find S-25 lod in any weapons pack (LIST post to the end please P.S. so special!!!) It's not simple queston, i make ini script for S-25L and S-25LD - laser guded variants used on Su-17's Su-25 and MiG-27's but where is S-25.LOD and S-25LAU.LOD? [WeaponData2089] TypeName=S-25L FullName=S-25L 340mm Rocket (Laser Guided) ModelName= Mass=310.000000 Diameter=0.340000 Length=4.100000 AttachmentType= NationName= StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=-1 BaseQuantity=0 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketPod=TRUE Retarded=FALSE Streamlined=TRUE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=TRUE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=MediumMissileEffects ReleaseDelay=0.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=155.000000 FusingDistance=0.000000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=4 Accuracy=80 MaxTurnRate=24.000000 MaxLaunchG=10.000000 LockonChance=90 LaunchReliability=80 ArmingTime=2.000000 SeekerFOV=35.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=45.000000 SeekerTrackRate=20.000000 SeekerRange=7000.000000 MinLaunchRange=2000.000000 MaxLaunchRange=7000.000000 Duration=120.000000 CounterCountermeasure=25.000000 NoiseRejection=25.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x00000000 BoosterStart=0.000000 BoosterDuration=1.500000 BoosterAccel=25.000000 BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect BoosterSoundName=Missile BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-0.985000,0.000000 SustainerDuration=0.000000 SustainerAccel=0.000000 SustainerEffectName= SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-0.985000,0.000000 InFlightEffectName= InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=1 ReleaseAnimationTime=0.250000 ReleaseAnimationDelay=0.500000 EODisplayFlags=0 [WeaponData2090] TypeName=S-25LD FullName=S-25LD 340mm Rocket (Laser Guided) ModelName=S24 Mass=310.000000 Diameter=0.340000 Length=4.100000 AttachmentType= NationName= StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=-1 BaseQuantity=0 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketPod=TRUE Retarded=FALSE Streamlined=TRUE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=TRUE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=MediumMissileEffects ReleaseDelay=0.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=155.000000 FusingDistance=0.000000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=4 Accuracy=85 MaxTurnRate=24.000000 MaxLaunchG=10.000000 LockonChance=90 LaunchReliability=80 ArmingTime=2.000000 SeekerFOV=35.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=45.000000 SeekerTrackRate=20.000000 SeekerRange=10000.000000 MinLaunchRange=2000.000000 MaxLaunchRange=10000.000000 Duration=120.000000 CounterCountermeasure=25.000000 NoiseRejection=25.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x00000000 BoosterStart=0.000000 BoosterDuration=1.500000 BoosterAccel=25.000000 BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect BoosterSoundName=Missile BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-0.985000,0.000000 SustainerDuration=0.000000 SustainerAccel=0.000000 SustainerEffectName= SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-0.985000,0.000000 InFlightEffectName= InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=1 ReleaseAnimationTime=0.250000 ReleaseAnimationDelay=0.500000 EODisplayFlags=0 [WeaponData2109] TypeName=S-25L FullName=S-25-L 340mm Rocket Launcher (Laser Guided) ModelName= Mass=75.000000 Diameter=0.340000 Length=2.552000 AttachmentType=SOVIET NationName=SOVIET StartYear=1979 EndYear=2020 Availability=1 BaseQuantity=25 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=2 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketTypeName=S-25L NumRockets=1 ROF=1.000000 FireEffectName=RocketPodEffect FireEffectTime=0.100000 FrontCoverNodeName= RearCoverNodeName= ShowRockets=TRUE Rocket01Position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 [WeaponData2110] TypeName=S-25LD FullName=S-25-LD 340mm Rocket Launcher (Laser Guided) ModelName= Mass=75.000000 Diameter=0.340000 Length=2.552000 AttachmentType=SOVIET NationName=SOVIET StartYear=1984 EndYear=2020 Availability=1 BaseQuantity=25 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=2 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketTypeName=S-25LD NumRockets=1 ROF=1.000000 FireEffectName=RocketPodEffect FireEffectTime=0.100000 FrontCoverNodeName= RearCoverNodeName= ShowRockets=TRUE Rocket01Position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Also in last years of USSR s-13 Laser Guided Rocket tested but not set in service (very good for attack small target) [WeaponData2107] TypeName=S-13L FullName=S-13L 132mm Rocket (Laser Guided) ModelName=S-13OF Mass=69.000000 Diameter=0.120000 Length=2.770000 AttachmentType= NationName= StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=0 BaseQuantity=0 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketPod=TRUE Retarded=FALSE Streamlined=TRUE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=TRUE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=MediumRocketEffects ReleaseDelay=0.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=7.000000 FusingDistance=0.000000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=4 Accuracy=80 MaxTurnRate=24.000000 MaxLaunchG=10.000000 LockonChance=90 LaunchReliability=80 ArmingTime=2.000000 SeekerFOV=25.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=45.000000 SeekerTrackRate=20.000000 SeekerRange=7000.000000 MinLaunchRange=500.000000 MaxLaunchRange=5000.000000 Duration=100.000000 CounterCountermeasure=25.000000 NoiseRejection=25.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x00000000 BoosterStart=0.000000 BoosterDuration=1.500000 BoosterAccel=54.080002 BoosterEffectName=RocketFireEffect BoosterSoundName=Rocket BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.400000,0.000000 SustainerDuration=0.000000 SustainerAccel=0.000000 SustainerEffectName= SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.400000,0.000000 InFlightEffectName=RocketInFlightEffect InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=1 ReleaseAnimationTime=0.500000 ReleaseAnimationDelay=0.000000 EODisplayFlags=0 [WeaponData2108] TypeName=UB-13L_S-13L FullName=UB-13L Rocket Pod (Laser Guided) ModelName=b-13 Mass=340.000000 Diameter=0.324000 Length=3.490000 AttachmentType=SOVIET NationName=SOVIET StartYear=1991 EndYear=2020 Availability=0 BaseQuantity=24 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=2 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketTypeName=S-13L NumRockets=5 ROF=4.000000 FireEffectName=RocketPodEffect FireEffectTime=0.150000 FrontCoverNodeName= RearCoverNodeName= ShowRockets=TRUE Rocket01Position=0.000000,-0.200000,-0.086000 Rocket02Position=-0.082000,-0.200000,-0.027000 Rocket03Position=0.082000,-0.200000,-0.027000 Rocket04Position=0.052000,-0.200000,0.069000 Rocket05Position=-0.052000,-0.200000,0.069000 P.S. It's not all, R-25!!! In 1972-1974 USSR AF test unlicensed analog AIM-7E (in NVietnam captured in 1967), but it's not accepted, be cause R-23 showed more good result. [WeaponData2244] TypeName=R-25 FullName=R-25 ModelName=aim-7e Mass=228.000000 Diameter=0.203200 Length=3.670300 AttachmentType=SOVIET NationName=SOVIET StartYear=1972 EndYear=1974 Availability=0 BaseQuantity=40 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=1 RailLaunched=FALSE RocketPod=FALSE Retarded=FALSE Streamlined=TRUE FinStabilized=TRUE SpinStabilized=FALSE HasGrowl=FALSE EffectClassName=MediumMissileEffects ReleaseDelay=1.000000 WarheadType=0 Explosives=40.000000 FusingDistance=2.000000 ClusterBomblets=0 ClusterDispersion=0.000000 GuidanceType=12 Accuracy=80 MaxTurnRate=10.000000 MaxLaunchG=2.500000 LockonChance=85 LaunchReliability=85 ArmingTime=2.000000 SeekerFOV=5.000000 SeekerGimbleLimit=46.000000 SeekerTrackRate=12.000000 SeekerRange=30000.000000 MinLaunchRange=4000.000000 MaxLaunchRange=25000.000000 Duration=65.000000 CounterCountermeasure=75.000000 NoiseRejection=85.000000 CapabilityFlags=0x00000000 BoosterStart=0.500000 BoosterDuration=2.900000 BoosterAccel=46.480000 BoosterEffectName=MissileFireEffect BoosterSoundName=Missile BoosterNodeName= BoosterPosition=0.000000,-1.835150,0.000000 SustainerDuration=0.000000 SustainerAccel=0.000000 SustainerEffectName= SustainerSoundName= SustainerPosition=0.000000,-1.835150,0.000000 InFlightEffectName=MissileInFlightEffect InFlightSoundName= ReleaseAnimationID=-1 EODisplayFlags=0 Quote
+Wrench Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 There dosen't seem to be one in either the bunyap pak or TMF. Even though the size will be off (240mm vs 340mm -- only a difference of 4 inches in diameter!), perhaps using the S-24 as a 'stand in' until someone steps forward to build the needed appears? edit, edit edit...a quick look into to Yefram Gordan's book, "Soviet/Russian Aircraft Weapons", says the S-25 is only 250mm in diameter. This includes the S-25-0, S-25-OF, S-25-OFM, and S-25L hopefully, you can see the text in the image ok. It says the warhead diameter is 340mm, but the body (caliber) is 240. So, I'd just use the S-24 and tell the end users to 'suspend disbelief' (ie: "get over it or build one!") Wrench kevin stein Quote
+lindr2 Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 OK! Thank You very much, at really i use S24.LOD for HOME USE. But I was think, what S-25.lod is present somewhere, and only I'm miss it. Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 OK! Thank You very much, at really i use S24.LOD for HOME USE. But I was think, what S-25.lod is present somewhere, and only I'm miss it. I looked for this lod file some times ago but can't found it. I think it never exist in benyap weaponpack -I don't know why... Quote
+Wrench Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 I'd like to ammend my previous post, after re-reading the discriptive text about the rocket... It appears we'd need TWO new items; 1) the rocket itself, with the larger-than-the-body warhead section and 2) the launch tube Which means it now would be treated as a single shot rocket pod. (something similiar to the anti-aircraft mortar as used by the Luftwaffe in WW2) In a pinch, however, the S-24 lod could be used as a stand in until the real shapes materalize. As seen in lindr's pictures, the warhead section sticks out of the container/launch pod Wrench kevin stein Quote
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