The Claim Game

[Old Bat]

I have been following the posts regarding claims with interest. I think the Devs have been very clever and introduced this as a subgame. Everyone is frantically trying to work out the perfect claim, the Devs must be greatly amused. A recent patch allowed those of us not really interested in playing the game a bypass. I see in recent posts Winder has given some clues. Personally I would ask him not to give the game away. I'm sure this could go on for quite a bit longer yet providing an interest and diversion for many. Well done.

 

In both wars claiming was a less than perfect administrative system, the pilots often having genuine claims disallowed. Perhaps it should also be mentioned that access to enemy documents after WW2 showed that even the allowed claims were much higher than actual and it was likely the same in WW1. Perhaps a case could be made for all claims to be additionally reduced to reflect that. Now there's a thought!

[+MK2]

I have been following the posts regarding claims with interest. I think the Devs have been very clever and introduced this as a subgame. Everyone is frantically trying to work out the perfect claim, the Devs must be greatly amused. A recent patch allowed those of us not really interested in playing the game a bypass. I see in recent posts Winder has given some clues. Personally I would ask him not to give the game away. I'm sure this could go on for quite a bit longer yet providing an interest and diversion for many. Well done.

 

In both wars claiming was a less than perfect administrative system, the pilots often having genuine claims disallowed. Perhaps it should also be mentioned that access to enemy documents after WW2 showed that even the allowed claims were much higher than actual and it was likely the same in WW1. Perhaps a case could be made for all claims to be additionally reduced to reflect that. Now there's a thought!

 

 

I think the claims rejected in real life are being a bit overstated in some post I have read.

 

Eddie Rickenbacker with 26 victories had 2 claims rejected. On the other end Lufberry with 17 kills had about 20 rejected.

 

Lufberry was an extreme case because of his lone wolf tactics deep over enemy territory. Rickenbacker would get in a motor vehicle, drive out to the front and get signed affidavits from witnesses at the front!

 

I think the claim system is really good just the way it is.

 

I would have probably acted more like Eddie....

[griphos]

Here's my first 100.

 

 

This was an object lesson for me in the advantage of jumping a flight from above and surprising them. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. The first two didn't know what hit them, I don't think. The other three were so confused, and outnumbered at that point, that they didn't stand a chance.

 

But, I may have to go with 110 Realism and up my front guns to Hard. For what it's worth, this was this pilot's 5th mission but his first kills.

 

PS. Although I haven't downloaded and installed 1.28a yet, because I sort of like the pending score and don't really want the claims to be any easier, I tried to write this as a young, new pilot back from his first mission where he shot down a plane. So it includes some unnecessary (and even wrong and trivial) detail. I like Pol's suggestion to use these as a way to increase the immersion of the game. But that's why it pleased me to score so well on a claim report I intentionally wrote in the style of an excited and still scrambled young pilot.

Edited March 17, 2009 by griphos

[Mr. Lucky]

I have to agree with Old bat. The first purpose of this sim is to immerse one in a WWI airman's experience. For my part, I'm happy to survive a mission. I rarely live long enough to see any kills confirmed, promotions or my squadron re-equipping. Fortunately, the team provided a simple setting for all the Stachels who are so highly concerned about getting their lkills confirmed or a high score racked up. The WWI airmen didn't receive a handbook on how to fill out reports in order to get their claims confirmed. A pretty medal, the Blue Max. If that's your goal or you want to be the first of the aces, then go for the easier claim setting.

 

I personally, want to beat the Red Baron in only one thing...to live longer. All else is a bonus.

[catch]

I have to agree with Old bat. The first purpose of this sim is to immerse one in a WWI airman's experience. For my part, I'm happy to survive a mission. I rarely live long enough to see any kills confirmed, promotions or my squadron re-equipping. Fortunately, the team provided a simple setting for all the Stachels who are so highly concerned about getting their lkills confirmed or a high score racked up. The WWI airmen didn't receive a handbook on how to fill out reports in order to get their claims confirmed. A pretty medal, the Blue Max. If that's your goal or you want to be the first of the aces, then go for the easier claim setting.

 

Well said. I totally agree. It seems there's too many "Stachel's" these days concerned only with kills and stats and talk of bringing pilots back to life and such rubbish. Who bloody cares about internet heroes. Not my cup of tea. P3 is a whole lot more than that.