Adjusting mixture

[ConradB 0]

Back with another question, and hopefully not a taxing one.

 

I have a Saitek AV8R-01 stick. The main reason I picked it up was the dual throttle levers. I use one for throttle and one prop pitch in BoBII, but for OFF, since we have no variable pitch proprs, I have been using the spare lever as a mixture control. The only thing is, and maybe it's just me, is the mixture lever seems to be more of a mixture cutout than an adjuster. What has been happenning is I start the eingine on the ground, and run up the throttle, while the mixture is on full rich, or I would think. As I lean it out, the engine makes no noticeable sound variation, like it would want to cut out from lack of fuel. Also, after take-off, I'm good until I reach about 5k ft, the the engine starts to mush as it should, so I try to adjust the mixture, and nothing happens when I start to lean it out, and expect the engine to pick up a little as I get to the optimum setting. As I climb to the required altitude, usually some where between 8k and 10k ft, the engine continues to bog down to the point that the plane is very difficult to even keep straight and level. If we come across any enemy planes, I give the order to attack, and my flight mates accelerate past me. Even if I enter shallow dives and climbs, I still have trouble catching up to them.

So my question is, is it possible to have the mixture control set on the second throttle lever? And if so, are there any set up procedures for using it this way.

 

Thanks in advance!

[sitting_duck 3]

i have the saitek x45,,,and i have never been able to put the mixture on a rotory,,or axis...

 

as a matter of fact,,if i did assign one of the mixture controls (if you notice,,there are several) to an axis...if i went back into controls the complete assignmnet was now missing from the list of controls that you can assign,,,(if that made sense..)...

 

i did manage to assign a hat swich to mixture,,and when i did,,,i got a slider,,for repeat...moved the slider up all the way,,,so when i hit up,,it gives me cntrl + repeatedly fast,,,and it works pretty good...

[ConradB 0]

In case you're not aware you can go Automixture in Workshop, till you get your act together

 

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Thanks uncleal. Did a search and all that popped up were topics that dealt with how the rotary engines worked back then. I really don't want to mess with auto mixture if I can avoid it. It's that or set the option in the workshop to keep the flights around the 3,000 ft level.

[Beastie boy 0]

Hi I don't use a Saitek but i managed to use my range analogue axis for my mixture on my Thrustmaster Cougar trottle and it works a treat. I can climb and when the engine grops of i lean it out and can hear it come back to optinmal performance. However the modeling for this is rather stunted. For example whilst climbing to 5000 m in an albatros I have to adjust once at 1500m to about 1/2 mixture and then at around 3000 to about 1/4 mixture instead of leaning it a bit by bit as i climb.

 

The hardest thing is to richen it up to the correct level in a turning diving dog fight, it gets some getting used to, but it works just fine. I had to use the generic mixture to map the axis to not the MIX + or - keys.

 

Hope that helps. All I had to do was select the mixture double click and move the axis so it was picked up.

 

BB

Edited December 10, 2009 by Beastie boy

[HumanDrone 4]

Every Bird is Different, that's one Helluva reason to become comfortable with a couple, three at most. Bad Mixture is a good reason to come out second best in a dogfight

 

Well, I don't know if my hearing is bad or what, but it seemed that the keyboard mixture commands were doing nothing the last time I flew - and no, I didn't have Auto Mixture turned on! I was flying the Fokker Dr.1 triplane (for my brother-in-law's entertainment) and I couldn't hear any audible difference and couldn't tell much difference in performance, either. I probably should have tried complete cutoff, but didn't want to get "hospitalized" after I augered in von Richthofen's favorite aircraft (the newbie Fleigher Rex von Schnaups having absconded with it for a joyride!). Still how many clicks from "full rich" to nothing?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

[HumanDrone 4]

I thought we were cautioned NOT to fly automixture... I am very new at this sim, to be sure.

 

So now you say there wasn't much adjustment in the German rotaries? Hmmm.

 

Still I guess what I'm asking is for some sort of feedback from the sim as to the position of my mixture lever, knob, or whatever it is, or at least how many +/- clicks to go from full rich to idle cutoff (or the other way). & yeah, the Z throws a lot of info out there, doesn't it?

[HumanDrone 4]

Yeah, I'm still at the "cheating" phase as well. Now how about this?

 

The whole mixture adjustment issue, becomes somewhat foggy where the rotories are concerned. The on-ground mechanic had it adjusted to run well. I know ME as the Pilot, wouldn't want to screw around with it much ( if at all ). Then it becomes even foggier as some rotories didn't even have a throttle persay, they were throttled by the ignition system

 

I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm wondering how you throttle an engine with the ignition - or should I more properly say, control the speed and/or power output. Must've been an interesting system, I know they had some novel ways of doing things in the beginning.

 

And by rotory, do you mean, like a Wankel? Or was it a conventional radial engine?

 

Thanks for the tips!

[HumanDrone 4]

Thank you sir. Wow, that's an interesting concept, but good night! If I want to throttle back, I simply throw away half my fuel! What they had to do back in the day, huh?