4 X MK-84s On A Crusader?

[charlielima 328]

Hey Gruppe.

According to the Crud driver that runs this site: http://www.cloudnet.com/~djohnson/usmc.htm

In 1965 VMF(AW) 212 was hauling 4 2000 pound MK-84 into North Vietnam on strike missions against rail bridges off the Oriskany.

A quote from his site:

The Lancers pounded targets off Dixie Station for two days, before the air wing

was moved into Yankee Station off the coast of hostile North Vietnam. For the

airmen, the most noticeable difference between North and South Vietnam was the

intensity of the anti-aircraft fire over the north. The F-8’s were modified in

July to accept napalm, Mk-82, Mk-83, and Mk-84 bombs on their wing pylons. The

Mk-84 two-thousand pound bomb was the Sunday Punch that the air wing needed to

knock down the bridges in North Vietnam. Launching an F-8 with a pair of these

behemoths under each wing was a problem, until Maj. Harry E. Sexton mandated

that the Crusaders be launched with 80% of it’s fuel and topped off in flight.

I'm only able to get 4 1000 pounders under the wings by eliminating the inside/outside rack limit and increasing the pylon load limits.

Changing load limits on TERs doesn't seem to change anything. Any Ideas?

CL

[DWCAce 19]

I think they only had 2 total.. Something might be lost in interpretation since the F-8's entire wing is clearly defined.

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

Everything I ever read about that it was two WW2 /Korea era 2000lbs bombs not Mk. 84s. When they went against the Dragon Jaw Bridge first time with this configuration the CAG Stockdale was shot down. I replicated this in a mission I called "The Lancers and Their Big Bombs".

Edited December 3, 2011 by CrazyhorseB34

[charlielima 328]

Affirmitive.

For what we have going on I'm thinking 4 M-117s

under each wing would be the "strike" Crud load.

Checking my Data Inis on attack and strike planes

nothing mounts more then 2 1000 pounders on a pylon

in the above 750 pound class.

CL

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

Check this out.

 

 

[charlielima 328]

Check this out.

 

Ah Yes, Complete with the USMCNM1 pilot too.

What numbers did you use to strap those on?

CL

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

Charlie Lima see attached file....The mission is for my heavily modded SF2V install with YAP carriers. The Crusader is the Mirage Factory F-8E. Enjoy, PM me if you have issues!

[charlielima 328]

Downloaded. OK those are 2000 pounders. for some reason I thought those where 3000 pounds each. I cranked my numbers back down to stock accept for my weapon groups.

I still have each sidewinder station in a different group. When I feel like cheating I can mount a sidewinder bodied focus AGM in 1969 or 70 and still have 3 zuni pods plus bombs on the wing pylons. But yah after downloading the excellent MF F-8E and slapping some skins on them I got curious about Corktips Splendid VMF(AW)-212 skin, made a separate airplane file for it, and did some research for a carrier campain. I'm still in WOV 1 with no YAP yet. No Joy getting my MF_F8E(early)_VMF(AW)212 in a campain or the Oriskany. Good news is I have about 8 different single squadron Mirage Factory Cruds available for single missions and have had up to 4 flights of them up at a time performing CAS, Escort, Strike, Recon, or Ironhand. I'll plug in that mission file and see what happpens. Stranger things have worked.

CL

[charlielima 328]

Ahhh! No joy with the mission in WOV.

I got to figure out how to use your sceenshot as my VMF(aw)-212 MF F-8E start up screen.

Good news is with Malibu's Air Ground Expansion Pack one can fly the Lancers F-8 off the Oriskany in campaign mode.

I have 3 SF installs on my computer. no SF-2, WOV-2.

I guess the 30 dollar question is do I start over with the 2nd generation version.

CL

Edited December 30, 2011 by charlielima