fallenpheonix Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 I just tried the new F-14 mission set available here, the thing is I can't launch from the Forestall, I reach around 80 knots and then go swimming Really wish I had a better understanding of what makes this game tick Quote
+Spectre_USA Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 Are you going to full zone 5 `burner, then hitting the "B" (or your mapped brake) key? If you wait for it to poot you out, you're going swimming... Quote
fallenpheonix Posted April 9, 2005 Author Posted April 9, 2005 I've been able to launch F-4's, A-4's and A-6's in other missions so I don't know what I could be doing wrong. Is there maybey a way to increase the strenght of the catapult? Quote
dfang Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 Can you post the exact mission your having a problem with? The other missions your talking about using the F-4,A-4, & A-6,are you using the Forrestal with those?? I haven't been swimming in awhile... Quote
fallenpheonix Posted April 9, 2005 Author Posted April 9, 2005 its actually any mission involving the Forrestal. anyway here it is: [MissionHeader] AircraftType=F-14A MissionMap=Desert MissionType=SWEEP StartTime=08:00 StartDate=07/14/1986 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirActivity=1 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=1 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=1 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=1 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=FALSE [Weather] WeatherType=SCATTERED WeatherAlt=2000 WeatherThickness=500.0 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=3000 StartWindDirection=270 StartWindSpeed=10 WindGustingAmount=0.0 [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=F-14A Name=Dallas FormationType=USFighter Size=2 RandomChance=100 MissionType=SWEEP ObjectiveID=2 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=661114,586675,0 CarrierBased=TRUE StartOnGround=TRUE StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=0.00 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Texture=VF1 Squadron=VF84 AircraftNumber=00 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT TargetArea= Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=DEPART Waypoint[01].Position=670525,586787,304 Waypoint[01].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[01].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[02].Position=700471,561823,6096 Waypoint[02].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[02].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[03].Position=726704,524082,6096 Waypoint[03].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[03].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=578865,522530,6096 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[04].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Position=537740,499769,6096 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[05].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=572097,551499,6096 Waypoint[06].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[06].Speed=272.66 Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[07].Position=639671,581277,1524 Waypoint[07].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[07].Speed=154.33 Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[08].Position=651017,586720,304 Waypoint[08].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[08].Speed=64.31 Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[09].Position=660798,587108,0 Waypoint[09].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[09].Speed=64.31 [AircraftMission002] AircraftType=MiG-21PFM Name=Tiger FormationType=SovietFighter Size=4 RandomChance=100 MissionType=INTERCEPT ObjectiveID=1 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=486129,437643,350 CarrierBased=FALSE StartOnGround=FALSE StartTime=0 Heading=180 Speed=200.00 Alignment=ENEMY Nation=Libya Texture=SovietSilver1 Squadron= AircraftNumber=00 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT TargetArea= Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=502977,446296,3048 Waypoint[01].Size=1500 Waypoint[01].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[02].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT Waypoint[02].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[02].Position=533437,508541,3048 Waypoint[02].Size=1500 Waypoint[02].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[03].Position=744945,512405,3048 Waypoint[03].Size=1500 Waypoint[03].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=740279,462177,3048 Waypoint[04].Size=1500 Waypoint[04].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Position=479782,414267,3048 Waypoint[05].Size=1500 Waypoint[05].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=469673,428949,3048 Waypoint[06].Size=1500 Waypoint[06].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[07].Position=486994,439134,3048 Waypoint[07].Size=1500 Waypoint[07].Speed=250.00 [AircraftMission003] AircraftType=MiG-19S Name=Zebra FormationType=SovietFighter Size=4 RandomChance=50 MissionType=INTERCEPT ObjectiveID=1 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=547361,465675,350 CarrierBased=FALSE StartOnGround=FALSE StartTime=0 Heading=180 Speed=200.00 Alignment=ENEMY Nation=Libya Texture=SovietSilver1 Squadron= AircraftNumber=00 PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL TargetArea= Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=546738,483416,3048 Waypoint[01].Size=1500 Waypoint[01].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[02].Position=585467,547804,3048 Waypoint[02].Size=1500 Waypoint[02].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[03].Position=542479,532200,3048 Waypoint[03].Size=1500 Waypoint[03].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[04].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT Waypoint[04].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[04].Position=537547,493885,3048 Waypoint[04].Size=1500 Waypoint[04].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Position=584683,507026,3048 Waypoint[05].Size=1500 Waypoint[05].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=583115,546765,3048 Waypoint[06].Size=1500 Waypoint[06].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[07].Position=546962,533983,3048 Waypoint[07].Size=1500 Waypoint[07].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[08].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[08].Position=541358,491881,3048 Waypoint[08].Size=1500 Waypoint[08].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[09].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[09].Position=535530,455348,3048 Waypoint[09].Size=1500 Waypoint[09].Speed=250.00 Waypoint[10].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[10].Position=569012,453661,3048 Waypoint[10].Size=1500 Waypoint[10].Speed=250.00 [GroundMission001] GroundObjectType=CV59 Name=Forrestal FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber= Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=661103,586695,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=764962,586621,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission002] GroundObjectType=Spruance Name=Delta 47 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=664988,588859,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=762346,588937,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission003] GroundObjectType=OHPerry Name=Delta 48 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=662787,585264,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=767056,585233,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission004] GroundObjectType=Spruance Name=Delta 49 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=659720,587921,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=766358,588008,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission005] GroundObjectType=Spruance Name=Echo 77 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=704164,560000,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=812991,560131,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission006] GroundObjectType=OHPerry Name=Echo 78 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=699372,558511,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=803208,558727,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 [GroundMission007] GroundObjectType=Spruance Name=Hotel 45 FormationType=Single NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE ShipNumber=00 Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=50 Position=642707,581310,0 StartTime=0 Heading=90 Speed=15.43 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN Loadout= Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[01].Position=713277,581310,0 Waypoint[01].Size=500 Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43 Quote
Guest capun Posted April 9, 2005 Posted April 9, 2005 (edited) I just tried the new F-14 mission set available here, the thing is I can't launch from the Forestall, I reach around 80 knots and then go swimming Really wish I had a better understanding of what makes this game tick <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I assume that you are using the up to date CV59 Forrestal, not the SP2a version, nor the Check-Six hack. Look at the CV59_data.ini There are no "cat strenght", what it has is a cat time to launch, the smaller the number the faster it will kick you out of the deck. For heavier planes there are three things you need to worry 1- Launch time 2- Cat lenght 3- Plane total weight The easiest, fastest way is to reduce the launch time. Just note that if you use a too small time with a lighter plane, you can actually redout (or blackout) [Cat1] SystemType=CATAPULT CatapultID=1 StartPosition=-14.2021,57.8598,19.4 <- If you substract the EndPosition second value from the StartPosition second value EndPosition=-10.4808,157.5803,19.4 <- you get the cat lenght LaunchTime=1.0 <- This number should launch the F-14 LaunchEffect=CatLaunchEffect CatapultEffect=CatSteamEffect Edited April 9, 2005 by capun Quote
fallenpheonix Posted April 9, 2005 Author Posted April 9, 2005 thanks guys, I appreciate it Before I tried this I edited the mission to use the Victorious and an FAA F-4J, I've been waiting for a game that would let me do this kind of flying in this era for years and after downing 4 Migs and evading a few SAMs then trapping on my first approach I have the biggest, and probably dumbest, grin I've ever had img00004.bmp Quote
fallenpheonix Posted April 9, 2005 Author Posted April 9, 2005 ok new problem... now none of the new missions work, in the selection menu they show up but the aircraft selected does not apear in the information window nor does any other information bar the title, this is after nothoing has been altered since last playing them. Even the unedited missions for the F-14 dont work Quote
dfang Posted April 10, 2005 Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) I tried the mission you posted,,it worked fine for me.. Capun is a wiz on these ships,sounds like you may have the incorrect Forestal or something... If you like i would be happy to e-mail you the Forestal im using,,,,send me a PM with your addy... :) Edited April 10, 2005 by dfang Quote
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