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I just tried the new F-14 mission set available here, the thing is I can't launch from the Forestall, I reach around 80 knots and then go swimming :search:

Really wish I had a better understanding of what makes this game tick :cool:

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Are you going to full zone 5 `burner, then hitting the "B" (or your mapped brake) key?

 

If you wait for it to poot you out, you're going swimming...

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I've been able to launch F-4's, A-4's and A-6's in other missions so I don't know what I could be doing wrong. Is there maybey a way to increase the strenght of the catapult?

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Can you post the exact mission your having a problem with?

 

The other missions your talking about using the F-4,A-4, & A-6,are you using the Forrestal with those??

 

I haven't been swimming in awhile... :grin:

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its actually any mission involving the Forrestal. anyway here it is:

 

[MissionHeader]

AircraftType=F-14A

MissionMap=Desert

MissionType=SWEEP

StartTime=08:00

StartDate=07/14/1986

 

[MissionData]

FriendlyAirActivity=1

EnemyAirActivity=1

FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=1

EnemyAirDefenseActivity=1

PlayerMissionID=1

PlayerPositionID=1

MissionNumber=1

AdjustStartPosition=FALSE

AdjustBaseWaypoint=FALSE

 

[Weather]

WeatherType=SCATTERED

WeatherAlt=2000

WeatherThickness=500.0

FogAmount=0.6

ContrailAlt=3000

StartWindDirection=270

StartWindSpeed=10

WindGustingAmount=0.0

 

[AircraftMission001]

AircraftType=F-14A

Name=Dallas

FormationType=USFighter

Size=2

RandomChance=100

MissionType=SWEEP

ObjectiveID=2

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=661114,586675,0

CarrierBased=TRUE

StartOnGround=TRUE

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=0.00

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Texture=VF1

Squadron=VF84

AircraftNumber=00

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

TargetArea=

Loadout=AirToAir

Waypoint[01].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[01].Position=670525,586787,304

Waypoint[01].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[01].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=700471,561823,6096

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[02].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=726704,524082,6096

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[03].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=578865,522530,6096

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[04].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[05].Position=537740,499769,6096

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[05].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=572097,551499,6096

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[06].Speed=272.66

Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[07].Position=639671,581277,1524

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[07].Speed=154.33

Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[08].Position=651017,586720,304

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[08].Speed=64.31

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[09].Position=660798,587108,0

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.00

Waypoint[09].Speed=64.31

 

[AircraftMission002]

AircraftType=MiG-21PFM

Name=Tiger

FormationType=SovietFighter

Size=4

RandomChance=100

MissionType=INTERCEPT

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=486129,437643,350

CarrierBased=FALSE

StartOnGround=FALSE

StartTime=0

Heading=180

Speed=200.00

Alignment=ENEMY

Nation=Libya

Texture=SovietSilver1

Squadron=

AircraftNumber=00

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

TargetArea=

Loadout=AirToAir

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=502977,446296,3048

Waypoint[01].Size=1500

Waypoint[01].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[02].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[02].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[02].Position=533437,508541,3048

Waypoint[02].Size=1500

Waypoint[02].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=744945,512405,3048

Waypoint[03].Size=1500

Waypoint[03].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=740279,462177,3048

Waypoint[04].Size=1500

Waypoint[04].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[05].Position=479782,414267,3048

Waypoint[05].Size=1500

Waypoint[05].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=469673,428949,3048

Waypoint[06].Size=1500

Waypoint[06].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=486994,439134,3048

Waypoint[07].Size=1500

Waypoint[07].Speed=250.00

 

[AircraftMission003]

AircraftType=MiG-19S

Name=Zebra

FormationType=SovietFighter

Size=4

RandomChance=50

MissionType=INTERCEPT

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=547361,465675,350

CarrierBased=FALSE

StartOnGround=FALSE

StartTime=0

Heading=180

Speed=200.00

Alignment=ENEMY

Nation=Libya

Texture=SovietSilver1

Squadron=

AircraftNumber=00

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

TargetArea=

Loadout=AirToAir

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=546738,483416,3048

Waypoint[01].Size=1500

Waypoint[01].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=585467,547804,3048

Waypoint[02].Size=1500

Waypoint[02].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=542479,532200,3048

Waypoint[03].Size=1500

Waypoint[03].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[04].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[04].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[04].Position=537547,493885,3048

Waypoint[04].Size=1500

Waypoint[04].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[05].Position=584683,507026,3048

Waypoint[05].Size=1500

Waypoint[05].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=583115,546765,3048

Waypoint[06].Size=1500

Waypoint[06].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=546962,533983,3048

Waypoint[07].Size=1500

Waypoint[07].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[08].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[08].Position=541358,491881,3048

Waypoint[08].Size=1500

Waypoint[08].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[09].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[09].Position=535530,455348,3048

Waypoint[09].Size=1500

Waypoint[09].Speed=250.00

Waypoint[10].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[10].Position=569012,453661,3048

Waypoint[10].Size=1500

Waypoint[10].Speed=250.00

 

[GroundMission001]

GroundObjectType=CV59

Name=Forrestal

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=661103,586695,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=764962,586621,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission002]

GroundObjectType=Spruance

Name=Delta 47

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=664988,588859,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=762346,588937,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission003]

GroundObjectType=OHPerry

Name=Delta 48

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=662787,585264,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=767056,585233,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission004]

GroundObjectType=Spruance

Name=Delta 49

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=659720,587921,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=766358,588008,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission005]

GroundObjectType=Spruance

Name=Echo 77

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=704164,560000,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=812991,560131,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission006]

GroundObjectType=OHPerry

Name=Echo 78

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=699372,558511,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=803208,558727,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

 

[GroundMission007]

GroundObjectType=Spruance

Name=Hotel 45

FormationType=Single

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

ShipNumber=00

Size=1

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=0

RatingForSuccess=50

Position=642707,581310,0

StartTime=0

Heading=90

Speed=15.43

Alignment=FRIENDLY

Nation=USN

Loadout=

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=713277,581310,0

Waypoint[01].Size=500

Waypoint[01].Speed=15.43

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I just tried the new F-14 mission set available here, the thing is I can't launch from the Forestall, I reach around 80 knots and then go swimming :search:

Really wish I had a better understanding of what makes this game tick  :cool:

 

I assume that you are using the up to date CV59 Forrestal, not the SP2a version, nor the Check-Six hack. Look at the CV59_data.ini

 

There are no "cat strenght", what it has is a cat time to launch, the smaller the number the faster it will kick you out of the deck. For heavier planes there are three things you need to worry

1- Launch time

2- Cat lenght

3- Plane total weight

 

The easiest, fastest way is to reduce the launch time. Just note that if you use a too small time with a lighter plane, you can actually redout (or blackout)

 

[Cat1]

SystemType=CATAPULT

CatapultID=1

StartPosition=-14.2021,57.8598,19.4 <- If you substract the EndPosition second value from the StartPosition second value

EndPosition=-10.4808,157.5803,19.4 <- you get the cat lenght

LaunchTime=1.0 <- This number should launch the F-14

LaunchEffect=CatLaunchEffect

CatapultEffect=CatSteamEffect

Edited by capun

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thanks guys, I appreciate it :cool:

 

Before I tried this I edited the mission to use the Victorious and an FAA F-4J, I've been waiting for a game that would let me do this kind of flying in this era for years and after downing 4 Migs and evading a few SAMs then trapping on my first approach I have the biggest, and probably dumbest, grin I've ever had :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

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:help: ok new problem... now none of the new missions work, in the selection menu they show up but the aircraft selected does not apear in the information window nor does any other information bar the title, this is after nothoing has been altered since last playing them.

Even the unedited missions for the F-14 dont work

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I tried the mission you posted,,it worked fine for me..

 

Capun is a wiz on these ships,sounds like you may have the incorrect Forestal or something...

 

If you like i would be happy to e-mail you the Forestal im using,,,,send me a PM with your addy... :)

Edited by dfang

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Fallenpheonix,

 

E-mail sent.... :)

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