saisran Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 While wandering around on a far away city i stumbled around a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It was on sale and it was the last one, so i bought it. It was nice and all. I can now sustain a turn and drag along with me because it can still fit in my luggage. (sadly i wasn't able to come across a cyborg fly). Now for the dilemma, While flying around in the Sabers and the Saders is easy due to having all controls fit in the stick, I'm having a bit of a trouble operating the more modern Jets especially the love of my life, "TMF's F-14 Tomcats." Operating the cat requires the use of different radar settings, HUD, and Cockpit display mode, flaps, targeting and so on. All of which doesn't fit in the stick. So the solution is to re-map the eys on the keyboard and have a select "most important" function on the stick. As i'm stupid and lazy, and quite busy working several position (and not getting any richer) i don't have time to thinker with the control set and would much rather be playing when i have time. So for all you good gentlemen out there who has a Extrem 3D Pro working on the SF2 series and flies the tomcat. i would really love to steal your control setups. Lots and lots of Thanks. Quote
csb Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) That's the stick I've been using for 5 years or so! It feels great and can have many controls mapped to the buttons on the actual stick and the hat. I have posted my controls ini below the overview of my setup. Let me know what you think and any changes you may recommend. Logitech & Mouse overview: I use a mouse in the left hand to look around, mouse wheel for zoom & airbrake, L/R buttons control thrust. Most of the commonly used pilot/combat controls and view/target controls are on the actual stick. The trigger button is for cannons & the thumb button is for bombs/missiles/rockets. The four topside buttons do weapon select, lock target, padlock view & rear view. The hat switch changes cockpit view and selects air targets & ground targets - also allows to change views (target view, player to target view, target to player view). I have tried to map actions in a fairly logical manner and divided the stick as left side is for air targets/weapons, right side is for ground targets/weapons. So similar functions are grouped on buttons using CTRL+ & SHFT+ . So each of the top buttons and the 4 directions on the hat switch can have 3 actions. With this setup I can keep my hands mostly on the stick & mouse while piloting, navigating and combat. With this setup I use TAB to turn on radar and change radar mode. The Q/W, A/S, Z/X buttons are used in pairs to change radar distance, select radar target, lock/unlock radar target. The buttons on the base are for gear up/down, flaps up/down. wheel brakes. There are 6 buttons on the base but I have only set the previous mentioned actions. Radio commands are on keyboard and also third person views, eg next object, fly-by view, tower view, action view. My controls ini - it has been named Logitech. [DeviceName]JOYSTICK01=Logitech Extreme 3D [1][ControlSet001]EXIT_FLIGHT=SHIFT+ESCAPEQUIT_GAME=CTRL+QPAUSE_FLIGHT=PAUSETIME_COMPRESSION=PGUPNORMAL_TIME=PGDNCHANGE_TIME=ENDSKIP_TO_NEXT=INSERTRADIO_COMM=GRAVECHAT_ALL=CHAT_ENEMY=SHIFT+GRAVECHAT_FRIENDLY=CTRL+GRAVECHAT_TARGET=ALT+GRAVEAUTO_PILOT=SHIFT+AWING_LEVELER=SPACENEXT_WAYPOINT=HOMEPREV_WAYPOINT=SHIFT+WMAP=MSCREEN_SHOT=PRINTSCREENDEBUG_TOGGLE=IGOTO_COCKPIT_FRONT_VIEW=GOTO_COCKPIT_WIDE_VIEW=JOYSTICK01_POV01_UPGOTO_COCKPIT_GUNSIGHT_VIEW=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_UPGOTO_COCKPIT_UP_VIEW=SHIFT+F1GOTO_VIEW_PADLOCK=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON04TOGGLE_COCKPIT=NUMPADPERIODSNAP_VIEW_FRONT=NUMPAD8SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_RIGHT=NUMPAD9SNAP_VIEW_RIGHT=NUMPAD6SNAP_VIEW_REAR_RIGHT=NUMPAD3SNAP_VIEW_REAR_LEFT=NUMPAD1SNAP_VIEW_LEFT=NUMPAD4SNAP_VIEW_FRONT_LEFT=NUMPAD7SNAP_VIEW_UP=NUMPAD5SNAP_VIEW_DOWN=NUMPAD0GOTO_VIEW_SHOULDER=F5GOTO_CHECK_SIX_VIEW=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON03GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_NEXT=F1GOTO_VIEW_OBJECT_PREV=F2GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_NEXT=F7GOTO_VIEW_GROUND_OBJECT_PREV=SHIFT+F7GOTO_VIEW_TARGET=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWNGOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWNGOTO_VIEW_TARGET_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_DOWNGOTO_VIEW_WEAPON=F8GOTO_VIEW_PLAYER_TO_WEAPON=SHIFT+F9GOTO_VIEW_WEAPON_TO_PLAYER=CTRL+F9GOTO_VIEW_FLYBY=F3GOTO_VIEW_FLYBY_PREV=F4GOTO_VIEW_TOWER=F10GOTO_VIEW_TOWER_PREV=F11GOTO_VIEW_ACTION_CAM=F12GOTO_FREE_VIEW=KCAMERA_PITCH_UP=ALT+UPARROWCAMERA_PITCH_DOWN=ALT+DOWNARROWCAMERA_YAW_RIGHT=ALT+RIGHTARROWCAMERA_YAW_LEFT=ALT+LEFTARROWCAMERA_ZOOM_IN=UPARROWCAMERA_ZOOM_OUT=DOWNARROWCAMERA_PITCH_AXIS=MOUSE_Y-AXISCAMERA_YAW_AXIS=MOUSE_X-AXISCAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROL=MOUSE_Z-AXISPITCH_UP=PITCH_DOWN=ROLL_RIGHT=RIGHTARROWROLL_LEFT=LEFTARROWYAW_RIGHT=PERIODYAW_LEFT=COMMATHROTTLE_UP=MOUSE_BUTTON02THROTTLE_DOWN=MOUSE_BUTTON01THRUST_VECTOR_UP=CTRL+EQUALSTHRUST_VECTOR_DOWN=CTRL+MINUSFLAPS_DOWN=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON11FLAPS_UP=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON12AIRBRAKES_TOGGLE=MOUSE_BUTTON03WHEELBRAKES_TOGGLE=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON10LANDING_GEARS_TOGGLE=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON09ARRESTER_HOOK_TOGGLE=HCYCLE_NAV_LIGHT=LENGINE_TOGGLE=EDRAG_CHUTE=CTRL+BEJECT=APPSPITCH_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Y-AXISYAW_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_Z-ROTATIONROLL_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_X-AXISTHROTTLE_CONTROL=JOYSTICK01_U-AXISTHRUST_VECTOR_CONTROL=NEXT_AA_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON05PREV_AA_WEAPONS=SHIFT+BACKSPACENEXT_AG_WEAPONS=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON06PREV_AG_WEAPONS=SHIFT+BACKSLASHFIRE_PRIMARY_GUN=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON01FIRE_SECONDARY_GUN=FIRE_WEAPON=JOYSTICK01_BUTTON02OPEN_BOMBBAY_DOOR=CTRL+ODROP_TANKS=CTRL+FJETTISON_STORES=CTRL+WNEXT_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=RBRACKETPREV_RIPPLE_QUANTITY=SHIFT+RBRACKETNEXT_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=LBRACKETPREV_RIPPLE_INTERVAL=SHIFT+LBRACKETNEXT_HUD_MODE=APOSTROPHEPREV_HUD_MODE=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_BUTTON03NEXT_GUNGROUP=SEMICOLONPREV_GUNGROUP=SHIFT+SEMICOLONCHAFF=CFLARE=BECM_TOGGLE=VTOGGLE_RADAR=CTRL+PGUPNEXT_RADAR_MODE=TABPREV_RADAR_MODE=SHIFT+PGUPNEXT_RADAR_RANGE=WPREV_RADAR_RANGE=QSELECT_NEXT_RADAR_TARGET=SSELECT_PREV_RADAR_TARGET=AACQUIRE_RADAR_TARGET=XACQUIRE_VISUAL_TARGET_ON_RADAR=SHIFT+INSERTREJECT_RADAR_TARGET=ZSELECT_CLOSEST_CENTER=NUMPADSTARSELECT_TARGET=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFTSELECT_PREV_TARGET=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFTSELECT_CLOSEST_TARGET=JOYSTICK01_POV01_LEFTSELECT_FRIENDLY=YSELECT_PREV_FRIENDLY=SHIFT+YSELECT_CLOSEST_FRIENDLY=CTRL+YSELECT_GROUND=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHTSELECT_PREV_GROUND=SHIFT+JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHTSELECT_CLOSEST_GROUND=JOYSTICK01_POV01_RIGHTSELECT_LAST_RADIO=RSELECT_LAST_RADIO_CALLER=SHIFT+RSELECT_RADAR_TARGET=CTRL+JOYSTICK01_POV01_UPSELECT_WAYPOINT=DESELECT_TARGET=ANIMATION_1=SHIFT+1ANIMATION_2=SHIFT+2ANIMATION_3=SHIFT+3ANIMATION_4=SHIFT+4ANIMATION_5=SHIFT+5ANIMATION_6=SHIFT+6ANIMATION_7=SHIFT+7ANIMATION_8=SHIFT+8ANIMATION_9=SHIFT+9ANIMATION_10=SHIFT+0[RangedControl001]AxisControl=PITCH_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=10.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=TRUEMouseScale=1.000000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=TRUESelfCenterRate=2.000000KeyControlRate=1.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=PITCH_DOWNDecreaseControl=PITCH_UPCenterControl=[RangedControl002]AxisControl=YAW_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=10.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=FALSEMouseScale=1.000000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=TRUESelfCenterRate=2.000000KeyControlRate=1.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=YAW_RIGHTDecreaseControl=YAW_LEFTCenterControl=[RangedControl003]AxisControl=ROLL_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=10.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=FALSEMouseScale=1.000000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=TRUESelfCenterRate=2.000000KeyControlRate=1.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=ROLL_RIGHTDecreaseControl=ROLL_LEFTCenterControl=[RangedControl004]AxisControl=THROTTLE_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=0.000000DeadZone=0.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=TRUEMouseScale=0.600000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=TRUESelfCenterRate=0.000000KeyControlRate=0.600000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=THROTTLE_UPDecreaseControl=THROTTLE_DOWNCenterControl=[RangedControl005]AxisControl=CAMERA_PITCH_AXISMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=10.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=FALSEMouseScale=0.200000UseMouseRate=TRUEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=FALSESelfCenterRate=50.000000KeyControlRate=2.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_DOWNDecreaseControl=CAMERA_PITCH_UPCenterControl=[RangedControl006]AxisControl=CAMERA_YAW_AXISMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=10.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=FALSEMouseScale=0.250000UseMouseRate=TRUEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=FALSESelfCenterRate=50.000000KeyControlRate=2.500000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_RIGHTDecreaseControl=CAMERA_YAW_LEFTCenterControl=[RangedControl007]AxisControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=-1000.000000DeadZone=0.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=FALSEMouseScale=9.000000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=FALSESelfCenterRate=100.000000KeyControlRate=8.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_INDecreaseControl=CAMERA_ZOOM_OUTCenterControl=[RangedControl008]AxisControl=THRUST_VECTOR_CONTROLMaxValue=1000.000000MinValue=0.000000DeadZone=0.000000Saturation=100.000000ReverseJoystick=TRUEMouseScale=1.000000UseMouseRate=FALSEReverseMouse=FALSELimitValue=TRUESelfCenterRate=0.000000KeyControlRate=1.000000AllowKeyControl=TRUEIncreaseControl=THRUST_VECTOR_UPDecreaseControl=THRUST_VECTOR_DOWNCenterControl= Note: The above is last line of my Logitech ini (do not copy this line) Edited August 4, 2014 by csb Quote
saisran Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 This is quite late a reply but. Thanks! I really appreciate your response. I found a good mix to assign the flight and weapons use to the stick along with radar selection and targeting while all other function are left as they were on the keyboard. this way my left hand moves freely on the board towards the keys it was accustomed to and i can concentrate on flying with my right. THanks Quote
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