VEAO News

[SilverDragon 99]

Sorry folks, I missing that forum 1 year ago.   

VEAO post an update of your product line.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=143732

 

 

 

Hey Guys, 

 

 

I thought I would do an update post for people to give you all an idea of what work is progressing and where on our various projects…Seeing as we have so many it’s easier to do one post with the updates, I will then attach a few renders/screenshots over the coming days of where things are at. 

 

So time for some updates on the warbirds and consumer facing products from me and the guys. 

 

So Duxford…

 

Anyone that came to see us at Duxford had the opportunity to try out our EFM demonstration with the Edge 540, before anyone asks yes it does have its own clickable pit etc and is running on our ASM code as well. I love flying that little plane and we wanted to put something out that people could come and throw around the sky and really experience the excellent work that our programmers have been doing. I don’t have any confirmed release plans for this yet (if at all) but it is something I will seriously look into come the back end of the year. 

 

P-40F

 

The model is now complete and the damage model is currently being worked on, I have seen a lot of the work that is going on and I can assure you that the damage is as much model as it is texture and I love the way that it looks beaten up, That said I hope to see more P-40’s in one piece then smashed online!

 

We have agreement from The Fighter Collection to obtain sound recordings from their P-40F for the sim and will be doing those recordings in the coming weeks. The aircraft is in sim, on our EFM and ASM. It is not yet complete but work is progressing well, this was one of the reasons we worked on the Edge 540 so we could trial a few things, this has sped up a lot of the back end fiddly work on the P-40. The engine modelling is simply stunning, I can’t wait to show you guys some of the cool things that have been implemented. 

 

Textures are being worked on and the external is pretty much done now the internal is speeding along and people will be pleased to know that it is a good step up from the Hawk textures and I am really fond of them, I’ll grab some screenies of these when I can. 

 

So, When? Well my goal is to be showing a pretty much beta ready aircraft in July, then pending final bug testing I am hoping to get this bird on the road to download over the back end of the summer. Yes I know it’s a little late, but I think you will all be blown away with the level of detail and work that has been done on P-40. 

 

We also have quite a few sessions booked with Real P-40F pilots to test the sim prior to release to ensure the best experience for you possible. If they say it’s good then it must be good  

 

More info in the build up to Legends in July

 

Bearcat

 

The model is pretty much finished, sadly our modeller for the Bearcat was severely ill during the backend of 2014 which has delayed us abit. I have always said that VEAO is a family unit and when one of our guys is unwell I made the decision that we would not take his work away from him and we would allow him to complete it. James, you know we are there for you mate. 

 

Other than this, the ASM and EFM prelims are well progressed including the engine being programmed already, I expect major progress to be made on this during July and August. 

 

Vampire

 

The External model is complete and cockpit is almost done, once again the systems have been done in their basic form and the EFM is on its way as well. We are optimising the model abit as the external was a little poly hungry so it’s having a slight rework to improve performance as it was a little fps hungry. This should be done in the next couple of weeks, then it’s off to the texture artists to work on. Again I am expecting serious visible progress to be made on this over the wind down from the summer. But it is progressing well. 

 

Meteor

 

Model is finished and in sim, purring nicely as anyone who saw our showcase will attest to. Its ahead of Vampire in terms or working on ASM and EFM and its gone into the paint shop for work. More details on Meteor will come out after Legends, but I am expecting this to be making some kind of appearance before the end of the year. 

 

Prelim work on all the major systems has been done, as has the basic EFM handling, we need to arrange to get it in front of a couple of real Meteor pilots that I know and we will be able to give more feedback then as to how much work we have to do to fix any issues they find with it. We are also looking into the GGS gun sight as well, which is proving an interesting challenge!

 

Spitfire XIV

 

Work has been delayed by the P-40F running late, but I am not going to say too much about this bird other than if you can come to Legends in July I recommend it  

 

It won’t be released at Legends but you will know/see more for sure. 

 

Wildcat

 

Well this one is something that we are working on but we haven’t officially announced it yet, I am adding it here as someone is bound to ask about it, Model is finished, internally and externally, ASM and EFM are coming along well, including the Shotgun Start! But no news on release plans or announcements yet, Sorry!

 

Buchon

 

We have had a few issues with some specs for the aircraft, Different builds, engines, time periods, real aircraft being hybrids and cross breeds over the years. We have a better set of plans and references now, Expect more new on Buchon September-October time. 

 

 

So What else have we been doing? Well other than the shows at Duxford we have also been working hard with the RAF for Typhoon, obtaining references and tech documents for that, Hawk bug fixing has taken up a fair chunk of time as well as doing private demos for non public releases and prepping for P-40F release. We are all working very hard, I do ask people to treat the guys with respect, we are all doing this as a side job to our day jobs. No one in VEAO is doing this full time work yet.

 

I will update you guys again with more news as/when I have some to share. 

 

All the best

 

Pman

 

 

 

 

And a pic over the Edge 540 EFM demonstration on Duxford last weekend:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/VEAO-Simulations/130582376992838

 

 

 

 

Our first reveal of the weekend....

 

 

Our Edge 540 technical demonstrator including our fully functional realistic flight model seems to be going down very well.. More to come later

 

 

 

 

[SilverDragon 99]

VEAO cancel all helipocters develop projects and plans on DCS: World (NH-90 / Westland Lynx / Westland Wessex / Boeing CH-47 Chinook / Aerospatial Puma). 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2440552&postcount=1116

Hey Guys, 

 

Well it didn’t take you long to spot that now did it!

 

Yeah I am sorry to confirm that for the time being at least we have pulled all our rotary projects including NH-90.

 

I completed an annual review recently on the progress of the modules in development along with all the process’ that we are going through for them. As part of that I have to assess viability for each project, when we came out with our roadmap we have envisioned that we would recruit at least 3 new programmers, in reality we only got 1 on top of the 2 we had already. In short it’s just too much work and without extra programmers helo’s were just something that was in the long grass. Compounded by the fact that we do not have any work outside of DCS that encompasses helo’s it made them the category that was the one to go. 

 

That is not saying that they won’t come back at some point in time, just that it is not right now and that it won’t be in the next 3-4 years which is what this roadmap is primarily focused on. 

 

For the time being we are concentrating on what we are becoming experts on, Warbirds, Early Jets and of course Typhoon!

 

Thanks for your understanding

 

Pman

 

[SilverDragon 99]

VEAO change your news report policy:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2442226&postcount=1204

Hi Guys 

 

Something Chris and I have been reviewing recently is our communication policy with the community and forums at large. To be quite honest with you it can be very depressing and demoralising for everyone involved. 

 

Hundreds of hours, Thousands of messages are exchanged monthly in working on these projects for you, the general populous, and to be frank we get a lot of hate and grumbling about incomplete or WIP shots of things that are going on in the background. It has already cost us 2 development members who quite frankly just don’t want to work on DCS or be in the community any longer. 

 

This cannot continue. 

 

As such effectively immediately we will not be releasing any renders or WIP of any of our projects going forwards until they are in test with ED and pending pre-sale and then release. 

 

Chris and I will maintain our presence on the forums and answer questions as/when we have time or the need but aside from that we will not be communicating any progress on our projects until they near completion. 

 

We are both sorry that it has come to this but we just cannot continue as we are. 

 

Regards

 

Pman

 

[+EricJ 4,242]

Tha's one thing as a modder sometimes hates and really hated about the ED Forums.  People telling you what you already know, offering sensitive material when it's clearly stated you're not going to do so, or your project won't due to it being sensitive material.  People constantly offering "help" when you know it's not, they just want to be part of the "action" but doesn't want to do any of the work.  The list is endless.

Edited July 30, 2015 by EricJ

[Tirak 4]

I really don't sympathize with VEAO. They released a sub par product at full price, haven't even finished it, and are releasing the P-40F before they get around to finishing it (When they announced the P-40F Presale someone specifically asked about the Hawk's flight model being finished before the P-40 being released and VEAO flat out stated that it would not). Their sounds are subpar, their cockpit texture work is poor and their flight model is incomplete. I don't say this as someone just making baseless assertions, i say this by being able to compare them to Leatherneck. Compared to the MiG-21Bis, the Hawk is practically a modding team's effort at a module, and if VEAO were just a modding team that would be fine, but they're not, they're a business. Yet they don't seem to realize that. This may be part time to them but they're selling a product, and if they want to sell at full price, they're going to have to step it up. They're not operating in a vacuum anymore. It's down to brass tacks because what they've released and what others have released on the same time frame and for the same price don't match up. They're going to get backlash for it, especially from people who bought the Hawk module last year with the implication the full flight model would be completed soon, and here we are a year later and still nothing to show for it.

 

Now I don't mean to say that them clamming up like this is a horrible thing. But I'm getting sick of watching the VEAO team and the vocal fans of the company trying to scream that they were driven to this by an unreasonable community.

 

Sorry if I'm out of line with this post, I normally go way out of my way to be polite, especially to developers, but this issue's gotten under my skin a bit, so I may be a little unreasonable ranting about it.

[+EricJ 4,242]

I can't say I disagree with you on their quality, as while the Hawk is a nice plane it needs to be fixed and improved.

 

But I don't see the post as unreasonable but the first thing to try is deal with the community and do any sort of popular mod, such as bringing an aircraft into DCS, or Arma 3 (create a really good mod) and you'll see how vociferous people can get.  I mean I have to be real assertive all the time in some cases in order to shut people up.  And to be honest with you I thought the Falcon 4 community was rabid, i guess it's DCS now. 

 

Hell I've been doing mods for nearly 15 years and I don't want to go back on the ED Forums again because of that factor.