+Cliff7600 Posted August 10, 2023 Posted August 10, 2023 View File Spitfire Mk12 --------------- Spitfire for CombatAce --------------- SF2 version 2021 TurboSquid : original 3D model Snapper21 : source file donated to CA, project development, textures editing and decals Wrench : project development origin and inis Starfighter2 : original Spitfire Mk9 cockpit Logan4 : additionnal 3D parts and model editing to import into TW sims, textures editing, decals and inis. Cliff7600 : textures editing, decals and inis, cockpit editing. Thirdwire : textures and inis. These are the models made for CombatAce from the original TurboSquid 3D source file. It is made to be downloaded for free at CombatAce site only, and not to be used in any other way. The models have been designed for a SF2 / ThirdWire use and nothing else. Not to be merged with other files sharing the same original 3D model. - Spitfire Mk12 Submitter Cliff7600 Submitted 08/10/2023 Category Spitfire 2 1 Quote
+Cliff7600 Posted August 14, 2023 Author Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, jeanba said: Early or late ? It's based on the Mk VIII so it's the late version. Some serial numbers won't match but it was simpler than doing the early and late versions. Mainly it was a matter of drag, fuel tanks and retractable tail wheel (if I'm right). Maybe the engine too. Edited August 14, 2023 by Cliff7600 1 Quote
jeanba Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Engine too: 1720 hp for griffon IIb, III and IV 1820 hp for griffon VI All added, changes were significant Edited August 14, 2023 by jeanba Quote
+Cliff7600 Posted August 14, 2023 Author Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) On 14/08/2023 at 11:31 PM, jeanba said: All added, changes were significant Well it's my choice, and I can explain it. I like to have 16+ aircrafts on the number list of each skin when it's possible (I mean without making up the serial numbers). In game it avoids aircrafts without serial number and tactical letter. With the details of the evolution of the Spitfire MkXII there should have been 3 models : Fixed tail wheel of the MkV : 0 aircrafts for the 41 squadron / 6 for the 91 squadron Retractable tail wheel of the MkVIII : 16 aircrafts for the 41 squadron / 8 for the 91 squadron Griffon IV : 4 aircrafts for the 41 squadron / 2 for the 91 squadron So it means : - one skin for the early version with 6 aircrafts - two skins for the mid version with only one numbers list file with 16 aircrafts - 6 aircrafts for two skins for the late version. Otherwise I would have had to produce many more tgas. It's not a problem when I want to, it's just I chose not to do it. I chose to have two skins with 20 and 16 aircrafts, without asking for another 3d model just for a tail wheel. The making of this MkXII sneaked out between other projects. The A-team MkXII has the fixed tail wheel. All the other changes are ini edits. On the production list I have, 81 aircrafts are powered by the Griffon III and 19 by the Griffon IV. -> 80 aircrafts are powered by the Griffon III and 20 by the Griffon IV and some of them were retrofitted with Griffon III. I agree there was another way to model the MkXII but, given that aircrafts were retrofitted during their service, I chose this way even if it's not the best. Since the beginning of this project there have been many "licenses" taken and all the Spitfires and Seafires released have some. This MkXII is no exception and I'm happy with it. Edited August 20, 2023 by Cliff7600 2 3 Quote
jeanba Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 Sorry for the misunderstanding Your approach is very good and your work is great I simply wanted to emphasize that the differences in performances between early and lat Spit MkVIII were significant. Quote
+Cliff7600 Posted August 20, 2023 Author Posted August 20, 2023 Spitfire12 skins and files have been updated. More to come 1 1 Quote
+Cliff7600 Posted August 20, 2023 Author Posted August 20, 2023 Okay there's historical issues everywhere, so if you want to fix one : In the "Decals" folder, "Spitfire12 / RAF41", remove / delete the "DDayStripes017" tga. MB 803 left the 41 squadron in may 1944 so it probably didn't have the D-Day stripes painted. It's a 2.14 Mo file so I guess it worths the move. But I won't make another update just for that. And for the fans of EB-X with the D-Day stripes no worry it will be back soon 3 Quote
+Cliff7600 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Another update You'll have the "ace of spade" decal for EB-J MB 840 and a more rounded "J" letter. The data.ini is updated with the correct entry CanopyNodeName=CanopyFrame And I deleted the "DDayStripes017" decal for EB-X. In case you don't agree and want it back, just copy and rename "DDayStripes003" or "DDayStripes019", they're the same tga. Edited August 31, 2023 by Cliff7600 Quote
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