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I wish I understood any of this. I have those clock settings with my card (AMD Radeon HD 6900 2GB) but no idea what they do. I was afraid to mess with them because of 1. my ignorance and 2. inadvertently causing a China Syndrome in my comp.

I agree part of the T & Js were kid oriented but no question they--as well as Merry Melodies--realized their audience also contained adults, simply because of all the puns, double entendre and Fourth Wall breaches employed throughout; no toddler is going to catch that. That and the recollection that Merry Melodies were originally made to be shown in theatres before movies and not many three year olds were going to see adult films. I stand by my belief that the violence is too strong for a three year old; even I wasn't watching them at 3 years old. I also didn't watch Bugs Bunny or the news about Vietnam at that age. But at, say, 8? Different story. But no question T & J is violent; look at the Simpson's "Itchy and Scratchy"; blatant spoof on T & J's violence. BTW, they aren't always "fine" after being knifed or hanged or shot or run over or blown up; several episodes have them dead. I'm not saying it's wrong if you guys want to or did have your three year olds watch that stuff; it's up to you and I'm not concerned about it at all. Today my guys are older (6 and 8) and intellectually well able to (and do) understand it's all a bunch of make believe nonsense. Is T & J not PC? I see them on TV quite frequently. You're probably right, though, as I own several Bugs Bunny/Merry Melodies DVDs and at the beginning of each disc Whoopie Goldberg comes out and explains how things were different back then and certain character potrayals are "wrong." When she appears I have the fast-forward click down to about .00005 milliseconds.

No kidding it's for adults! A few years ago I sat down with my then three year old son and saw Tom & Jerry was on. I hadn't seen it in a bazillion years and thought "this will be great to watch with him." WRONG. The plot of the episode was each tried to murder the other. That was it. Knives, guns, an axe, even a noose. Now, I'm not morally opposed but it wasn't something a three year old was going to understand! I distracted him during the worst of it but quickly had to admit defeat and just shut off the set.

I've looked at all sides and stand by my earlier stated opinion.

It's all good, Lou! I just didn't want us straying into 60 Minutes territory.

Going to stick my nose in here. I know some sources claim otherwise but there is a photo of 102/17 crashed that clearly shows it unburnt, so consider the "exploded when crashed" with a grain of salt.

Not to quibble, Lou, but I'll amend "any issues that may cloud his VC" to "the issues that do cloud his VC." The former is much too passive for this subject.

CloD is a hot mess, from what I've read. I'll still grab it, whenever it finally reaches the states. Hopefully they'll have enough bandaids on it by then. Looking forward to the PTO action! Did you see the Soryu at the beginning of that clip? What you could see of her looked excellent. Same with the Yorktown class CV (although the SBD taking off is in May 1942 markings and the AA tubs forward the islands had 40mm quads; they were still 1.1" quads in that period--however, this won't detract me from taking off from her!). People rip on WoP's small maps but the PTO is ideal for them. In any event, I hope they got rid of the timed missions.

From everything I've read and discussed on the subject, the tale of the VC flight is a load of dross.

Okay, it was a single plane and not a squadron motif. Thank you guys for the info!

Interesting tidbit, Olham. It's not visible in any photo I have of No. 46 Sqn Pups but I don't have photos of every one of them, of course, although they are painted up with a variety of names, etc (and I'm not implying it wasn't painted on them/some/one of them). Natural to use that, though, being Per ardua ad astra was the RFC/RAF motto. They just kept the "to the stars" part, then.

Yes, No. 24 Sqn March 1916. One Eindecker claimed last night. Per ardua ad astra!

Yes, my dad played for a few years with several franchises in the early and mid sixties. As I said he was a pitcher (lefty) but a rotator cuff injury ended that and so he became first baseman. I don't remember the year but he got called up and a chance to sign with the Pittsburgh Pirates. However, Willie Stargell was their first baseman at the time and he knew there was no way in hell he'd ever play an inning with that guy there. Also, my brother and I had come along and you know how life changes with some hungry munchkins running around in diapers. So, he went back to the steel mills and studied broadcasting through a mail-order school, of all things. Became a radio DJ and then went into television broadcasting as a sportscaster on the news, so he was always involved with sports. He did that for 30 years. He's retired today and spends his time coaching high school and external organizational baseball. No, I was a mediocre ballplayer. Sportscasters back then (pre-ESPN, internet, yadda) actually travelled around a lot and interviewed/covered big teams. For instance my father, who worked in Madison Wisconsin at the time, produced a special about an Ali/Frazier fight; travelled to the training camps, interviewed them, then the TV stationed pre-empted prime time network shows to play it. He did that with Hank Aaron, Bart Starr, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Rose, Mike Schmidt, etc. Unfathomable today. Floyd Patterson is (was) my Godfather. Anyway, my dad was gone a lot and so baseball was never stressed in our house at all. However, my parents divorced and he has a whole new crop of kids. Being retired and a coach, my half-brother has received all the baseball knowledge from him and as a sophomore was good enough to make the high school varsity team and is just tearing it up. Cool story, Shiloh! I wouldn't want a Mickle Mantle ball to hit my noggin! Kevin Costner? He must've been a sight after Ripkin got through with him.

I like "tyre." And the way my dear friend in Chelsea pronounces Hurricane "herken."

Definitely not the nicest but where I'm flying right now. Bertangles, home sweet home. Shots of another lovely day there. Outbound: Inbound:

I've not noticed so much of that here but definitely head-hunting or too many "accidental" beans will do it. My father played minor league ball as a pitcher in the 1960s (on the Tampa Tarpons with a guy named Pete Rose, who my dad said gambled frequently, even back then) and hit a guy who then charged the mound with the bat! Fists are one thing but an angry man with a bat is another; my dad was smart and took off. They got to center field before the guy was tackled and disarmed.

Interesting that the benches clear in German baseball, too. Edit: Forgot to say your first post made perfect sense to me! Pretty cool.

Hello, You guys are on the mark. Generally speaking (always exceptions, as you guys noted), the three-lined weights tables were on OAW-built machines and situated closer to the cockpit, just under the manufacturer and Idflieg placards (which on Johannisthal-built Albatros Ds were situated forward on the nose [and on the leading edges of the lower wings near the interplane struts, and in the wing cutout above the cockpit]). The Johannisthal-built machines generally used the two-line weights tables (and there are a few variations of them) located between the horizontal datum line and footstep. Again, always exceptions here and there.

Apocalypse.

Gladiator? I've shown these elsewhere but: Cornball? Yep. Fun? Yep! :yes:

Thanks for the great views! I've seen cows in other sims but they were just 2D--fly over them and they were as thin as a piece of paper. These 3D cows have a much better appearance! One of my favorite things about OFF is all the subtle weather-affected scenery. For instance, in that first shot, there's just a very light dusting of snow on the ground. Plus, there are four seasons. This seems to be an impossibility with other sims and I enjoy the effort OFF has taken to provide them all.

Oh, no.

If to only observe and not affect or be affected by the events? Then I would go to Pearl Harbor 6 December 1941. Get a good view and photos of the fleet, have a fun night in Honolulu, then be up bright and early for the events of the following morning.

Hey, I'm not offended! It's all good. And, believe me, I've had my share of battles with people you've described who, despite my IRREFUTABLE Mount Everest pile of evidence proving something to the nth degree, simply will not believe it. At least in public; I had one very well known researcher you all have heard of (who shall remain nameless) write me privately and admit he was wrong after we debated a subject for years. I agree with you guys that history should be written in pencil (and much of my research has rewritten many things that for decades had been written in pen) but when photographs of a crashed machine do not show any red, how much more proof does one need? Personal accounts are great but they aren't always reliable (Der Rote Kampfflieger) and they aren't always true (Billy Bishop). The Fokker documents I've been privy to see show F.I 101/17 was dispatched 21 August 1917. There is a photo of this machine in flight that many mistakenly believe was MvR's plane. However, it had a unfinished, engine-turned metal cowling and the camo streak patterns do not match those of 102/17. This machine was used for flight tests and static load tests at the Fokker factory in Schwerin. F.I 102/17 was dispatched 21 August and sent to JG1, where it was flown by MvR for about a week before Kurt Wolff assumed ownership and he flew it less than two weeks before he was KiA. No red appears anywhere on this machine in any photos. F.I 103/17 was dispatched 21 August 1917 and sent to JG1 where it was flown by Werner Voss. There are 360 degree views of this airplane, none of which show red, which was not a color used by Jasta 10, anyway. The next triplane on the Fokker list is Dr.I 104/17, dispatched 10 October 1917. Now, some contend there were more pre-production triplanes at the front. The records I've seen don't support this, but I've not researched it personally to the nth degree so I don't rule it out. However, I can and DO say with absolute 100% certainty that on 6 September 1917 F.I 102/17 was NOT "all-red," no matter what Lee wrote. Yet, because of that, the tail-wagging-the-dog begins: "there must have been another triplane besides 102/17 and 103/17 that was all-red." Okay, who flew planes painted all or mostly red in late-summer 1917? MvR. Who else in Jasta 11--who used red on their wheel covers, struts, and noses--was going to paint their plane all or mostly red, just like the commander of JG1's plane? Nobody. MvR used red for leader recognition; how does one recognize the leader when there are a bunch of all-red planes flying around? It makes no sense for somebody other than MvR to be flying around a third pre-production painted all-red. "Well, MvR had a second triplane then that was all-red." Okay, fine, but there are no records of one, no photo of one. As I always say to people: Don't tell me why I am wrong; prove to me why you are right.

I certainly don't think I have all the facts. Hence, my study never ceases. Neither Richthofen's F.I 102/17 nor Voss's F.I 103/17 was red. Look at the ten zillion photos of each. Voss's certainly not because Jasta 10 didn't use red. MvR's no, because (again) of the ten zillion photographs that show it not red, even up to a couple days before Wolff died in it; i.e., after 6 September. In the crash photo of 102/17 none of the visible surfaces is red, including major areas of the plane that would have been painted red in accordance with J11/MvR's markings had it been painted red, such as the upper wings and tail. +1 what DukeIronHand wrote. The only all-red Dr.I--including the underside--that MvR flew was 425/17 and that wasn't even built in September 1917. Well, 152/17 eventually became all red but after MvR last scored with it which, again, was well after September 1917.