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Ok im down to a few things that I want to play with but I don't understand the code layout, please help if you can.

in the later section of the campaign data.ini is an area like this:

[strategicNode047]

Area=Récicourt

ConnectTo[001].Target=La Harazee

ConnectTo[001].BasePoint=102750.00,125750.00

ConnectTo[002].Target=Lachalade

ConnectTo[002].BasePoint=106750.00,123750.00

ConnectTo[003].Target=Boureuilles

ConnectTo[003].BasePoint=112250.00,127250.00

ConnectTo[004].Target=Vauquois

ConnectTo[004].BasePoint=113750.00,127750.00

ConnectTo[005].Target=Avocourt

ConnectTo[005].BasePoint=119750.00,126250.00

ConnectTo[006].Target=Esnes

ConnectTo[006].BasePoint=123750.00,128250.00

ConnectTo[007].Target=Lisle-en-Barrois

ConnectTo[007].BasePoint=118750.00, 94250.00

Can you explain what this is doing? Some entries are only 2 connects long and some are like this and have 7 or more. And also .... what defines a BasePoint ?

It seems to be defining areas for something but im not seeing the picture yet.

Thanks in advance for any help

Hmm whats this here on the ground ... hmm a request about some plane called the Halberstadt. Someone must have dropped it that was going to send to laton or something like that. Let me see if I can cram it in the mailbox ... damn its full.... I will just tape it here on the side of the mailbox

Ok well Im going to venture into the waters here very slowly and carefully....

Im going to point at Laton and that crew making the newest models real fast and point out that some of the best work has come from him and we have offered many constructive comments back and forth about different issues and no one has got bent out of shape(btw there are more amazing mod people here as well just picking on him cuz I know he won't mind ). To say that no one here can take any input is not at all what I see here. I have had many send me ideas and disagreements in priv msgs and none have been mean spirited. I feel some are just getting caught up in all the bad they can find and will not take a look at all the great stuff thats available to us here, right now!

I have had some realy nasty things said about me on different Open Blogs and Open Forums over somethings I did in the campaign but I did not take anything nasty into open forums and make everyone suffer and have to look at it. I do have my opinions about this whole thing but I keep that in priviate msg's and not out here in the open forum. One thing I have seen is a few select people go off in forums before they even send a priv msg to the other person to get the real story from them first.

There are a ton of planes available and, thanks to some amazing hard work from the Mod guys we have even more otw. This game is a ton of fun and will be as long as most of us can keep our eye on the game and not on the drama. Quite a few just don't say much unless it's negative in nature. It seems like all they wait for is a chance to down something and want to keep the pot stirred up as much as possible. If we all try changing the way we react then this forum will be an even better place to hang out than it already is. All it takes is taking a few breath's and think about what you write and how you would feel if it was pointed at you.

Now Ateam planes.... I personally dont know of anyone who has been denied any access to the Ateam planes unless they made comments in the open bad mouthing Ateams way to letting planes out, sorry but its their choice and I can live with that and, I think many others are doing the same. This is yet another reason to keep things in private tells and not blurting things out in the open that you object to how they do it. I do feel theres a fine line between being constructive and destructive in a forum, its a VERY grey area and easy to step over if not thought out well. If it was that hard to get them I would feel bad about adding them to my campaigns for sure. I have not had ONE priv msg saying they were denied access to these planes and can't use the plane fest! No im not part of the Ateam in any aspect, just a flyer who happens to make a few campaigns here and there. I have even made a different mod of the DR1 FM for hard FM mode and capun was just as easy as anyone else to work with and I suffered no broken bones or any form of torture from the meeting...

Last point..... written word in a forum is very hard to judge since no tone or inflection can be heard from who writes it. They can't include body language, gestures or any means other than the written words so please take that into consideration when reading someones post that sounds strange.

I hope I didn't pick on anyone or seem out of line with anything I posted here. If the mods do feel this to be rude or destructive.... please remove my post and I totally understand.

<steps down off the soap box and makes room for the next poster>

Well what kind of person would go and bug you about this plane .... man the kind of people here are just ..... oh wait a minute ... hmmm NM.

I dont have much in the way of links or anything, you might try and msg bort and see if he has his links available from when he made the models.

Sorry wish I could help ya more.

LOL Is it me or does everyone feel like they are downloading paint schemes all the time im here ... hahahah great work all. thank you for the new schemes

oppps

Ok thank you I will correct and reload. Thought I got all those loose ends done and still missed that one hahaha

Try flying E.III in OFF Phase 2 too. Releasing the sick is nearly lethal there.

Thats the MS combat add on right?

Just wondering if you were thinking of adding Bort's new Albs?

I sent you a PM on this. Im trying to keep that part of the campaign (which planes are included) in priv msg so we dont get a flame posting started that all the players here dont have to endure. THanks for understanding.

I am working on a new version of the Fest and I would like to get some info/help from the community.

1st off ... I am getting alot of request for a bit more accuracy of the time frames and which planes are supposed to be going up against which other planes.

So..... Below is a list of planes and if any of you can help please give me as an exact date on entry/exit in the war and what you think the planes were it would fly against.

2nd .... I am getting pretty bad feedback about problems with the bomber squadrons that flyable. Most of it stems from not being able to get bombs to work right on the planes in the fest. So there's a poll here to keep the bomber squads in or out and im going to go by that to keep or replace the squad with a fighter squad. Please put your choice if you dont mind... it will help me know which way to head.

3rd .... Some planes are being taken out of the fest and replaced with others so I can get things a bit closer on FMs and the plane match ups are not too lop sided. I have it now where you get almost every plane thats out there in game but that's causing a ton of problems with some planes just not holding their own enough and pilots cant get past them very well. When its closer to release date I will post the planes that will be included. If you disagree totally with my choices I am sorry but that's the way im heading... very sorry. I would suggest you try the 5.0 out and see if its not more fun than you thought it might be without these other planes. If your still not happy then I understand and hope you will come back as more planes get added.

This release may be a while off so Im not talking this week or that soon. Im going to get quite a bit more info from some people here and try to get match ups that are closer to history but may not exact. Im history there may be a time where the Germans whipped the allieds 10000 to 1 but I dont see recreating that in a game. Who wants to get killed that many times to get past a certain point? Not me. I will have it where you may be fighting for your life at times but not unbeatable.

Thanks in advance to all of you for any help you can throw my way....

Here are the planes I need help with dates of entry and exit from the war. You can respond here or msg me here at CA your call.

If you have issues with which planes are listed please send me a priv msg and not in this open forum. thank you

MSTypeH

MSTypeL

MSTypeAO

MSTypeLAO

Nieuport11

Nieuport17

N24

N24bis

N28

SPAD7 (Ateam)

SPAD12 (Conversion)

SPAD13

F2B

Br14

Dh2

Fe2B

Pup

Triplane

Camel (Ateam)

CamelF1 (Mike W)

SE5a

Dolphin

BE-2A

BE2

BE-2D

Br14

Ca3

HP400

AlbatrosD1 (Conversion)

AlbatrosD2 (Conversion)

AlbatrosD.III (Ateam)

AlbatrosD5a

DR1

FokkerEIII (FM Conversion)

FokkerEIV (FM Conversion)

FokkerDVII

FokkerDVIIF

SchuckertD3

PfalzD3

PfalzEIIIO

PfalzEI

PfalzEIII

PfalzEIIIAO

HalberstadtDII

Walfisch

AviatikC2

DFWC5

GothaGIV

Staaken

well im going to jump the gun and say its the add on craft mostly. And TK can't control how those planes work in the game alot since they were made by people outside the game mfg. The ini files have alot of the control factors on how the plane flies in game so each mod person makes up an FM for their plane.

This is nothing against anyone but, If your flying on Hard FM and some of the planes that are available were designed for normal FM. When you fly on hard that planes at times don't fly correctly like they would on normal FM.

I would find out which planes your seeing that are having problems and see if its not all from the same Mod person. More than likely it is on of the sets that were tuned to normal FM and not hard or vice versa. Some of the newer planes are tuned to Hard and not normal as well so it could be either way.

As well as some FMs just dont hold up well when flown against others. I try and get a mindset of early war pilots were young and probably scared to death alot and I mark it up to pilot panic and try to let it fit in the game till some tweaks are done to them. And there are some FMs that just don't hold up well in the game compared to any other plane and just do steady drops from the start and theres not much you can do except tweak the FM ini code like alot of us do or just dont use those planes in your games.

If you want to send me a priv msg I can talk you through some of the problems I have seen with certain planes and what I have done to help them slightly. Some people dont want posts of their FM inis on the forums in the open so I would like to keep that conversation in a priv msg format

Check you PM box I sent you a PM on this

Well Brandy we can't tell if your the queen or not ... you have to be able to do that cool little hand wave the royal family has before Im willing to believe ya 8)

I Started to say something about proving to us your the queen by showing us a pic of you in a dress but ... im not sure I want to see that the more I think about it 8) j/k

Ok I just attached the wwiCampFCPF_DATA.INI file if you know what your doing. It has the .txt extension just rename it and drop in the campaign folder and replace the one thats there.

It adds the PfalzEIV and the PfalzEV

Just rename to wwiCampFCPF_DATA.INI and drop in fest folder

FCPF_4.01.txt

Nice thing, but how can I be sure to download the correct models? A few models have to be downloaded at "Capun SkunkWorks". The downloads are password protected and it says "We are no longer producing public use Freeware models".

you can reach him at capun1950(at)yahoo(dot)com

Nice idea....

Man I used to use 3D max 3.0 and I wondered if everyone still used the 3D planes with outlines still.

Can't wait for more planes... its starting to be an addiction

Get it here

The final list of planes in the fest is around 60 8)

Enjoy

MSTypeH

MSTypeL

MSTypeAO

MSTypeLAO

Farman MF11

Farman MF11b

Farman MF11c

Farman MF7

Farman SF11

RFC MF11

RFC SF11

Avro504C

Avro504D

Nieuport11

Nieuport17

N24

N24bis

N28

SPAD7 (Ateam)

SPAD12 (Conversion)

SPAD13

F2B

MartinsydeG100

Br14

Dh2

Fe2B

Pup

Triplane

Camel (Ateam)

CamelF1 (Mike W)

SE5a

Dolphin

BE-2A

BE2

BE-2D

Br14

Ca3

HP400

AlbatrosD1 (Conversion)

AlbatrosD2 (Conversion)

AlbatrosD.III (Ateam)

AlbatrosD5a

DR1

FokkerEIII (FM Conversion)

FokkerEIV (FM Conversion)

FokkerBI

FokkerDVII

FokkerDVIIF

SchuckertD3

PfalzD3

PfalzEIIIO

PfalzEI

PfalzEIII

PfalzBI

PfalzEIIIAO

HalberstadtDII

Walfisch

AviatikC2

DFWC5

GothaGIV

Staaken

Ok, when you say corrupt does it not even open any more or does it just mess up the whole picture when it opens?

If its messing up the pic then look at the color pallets and see if they are re-assigning the color pallet, or look at the color bit lvls from before you edit vs after you edit and see if its reducing the pallet or bit depth.

If it won't open im at a loss not having the program to mess with. Maybe Sinbad has the scoop for you as well.

GL

Hello there. Ok I don't know anything about the programs your using but I know alot of us here use either adobe photoshop or paint shop pro. I use both for different effects im getting on paint schemes. Photoshop has more useful brushes and makes things look like real paint brushes were used. Paintshop pro its real ez to work with and it is easier to re-manipulate layers and such with.

Are you sure that the .tga files didn't get corrupted during the download maybe? You might look under the preferences in those art programs and make sure .tga is supported.

Try to DL some paint scheme files from CA here and see if the art prog can open them up. most of the template files are going to be in a psd (photoshop) format but most art programs can open them fine.

Ill keep a look out for your repost to see if this helped.

Yea I saw it there but didn't go looking for the temp folder link or where ever its hidden. Ill try and see where it is later if I have access to it.

Just got home and I will get your new planes in there and get the new Plane fest released tonight if I can get all the line ups between planes fixed. Some of the planes just are not as good vs its counter parts as I had wanted. So I am narrowing down which planes stand a chance against which and should be releasing the fest tonight god willing and no more FM issues.

You guys did one heck of a job S!

And to Viper. I would sure like to see someone take a look at the DH2 file and see if the shadow detail is the FPS bleed. I like to keep the shadows on and its really hard when 12 or so DH2 come roaring across the screen .... an I am on a pretty stout PC.

Great work guys... as soon as I get home I will add to the FC plane Fest and release it tonight.

Nice to have all these early war planes showing up 8)

Welcome to the fun <S!>

FE has been a load of fun and glad to see more people getting onboard.

Yea MP is the main thing I think alot of people are looking at. Its just the animal that happens when you have open source code. Its great to be able to mod the planes and have these amazing people make us new planes to enjoy but it comes with the price of problems on MP games. I miss the furballs in MP RB3 8( when we were all online and doing wars or just killing time... and each other.

you will find a pretty ez going group here, as anywhere a few tend to tweak the forum at times but overall the mods here keep everthing even tempered and do a great job.

make sure and get an account with Ateam. They do a nice job with add on planes, the DL here at CA has most of the rest and a few from Borts site. Most of this is easy to find.

Glad to have ya aboard

And what happened to DH2's?

Good eye Gr, It will be in there. I just missed it on the listing here. I took a bunch of upgrade cut outs and weened them down to plane types and I probably missed one in the process. I think thats a sweet plane and well designed. Has a bit too many polygons on the model which can cause FPS issues if you fly with shadows and all on. I dont notice a ton of it but I can tell if ones in the area by the way the game is acting.

Right now im trying to make up a few different squads with different planes in them so there are different choices to make on starting a campaign. Biggest thing is still making the match up fun to fly and exciting to be in. I hate it when one plane is just head above or below everything else in its era.

Well you are correct its the Alb D3 not the D1. Here is the plane list after working most of tonight so far on it. This is darn near ever plane from TK, CA modders, Ateam, and bort's site. Mostly now im trying to play the campaign from alot of squads to make sure things play out correctly after this much change.

The full plane list that is needed for this Campaign (4.0) to work: (SO FAR)

------------RAF Allied--------------------

MSTypeL

Farman MF11

F2B

Br14

MartinsydeG100

Fe2B

Pup

Triplane

Camel

CamelF1

SE5a

Dolphin

MSTypeLO

Farman MF7

RFC SF11

Farman MF11b

Farman MF11c

BE2

BE-2A

BE-2D

Ca3

HP400

---------- French ------------------

MSTypeL

Farman MF11

RFC MF11

Nieuport11

Nieuport17

Avro504C

Avro504D

N24

N24bis

N28

SPAD7 (ateam)

SPAD12 (Conversion FM)

SPAD13

MSTypeLAO

RFC SF11

RFC MF11

F2B

Salmson2A

BE-2A

BE2

BE-2d

Br14

Ca3

HP400

----------German--------------------

PfalzEIII

FokkerBII

FokkerDII

FokkerEIII

FokkerEIV

FokkerDIIIL

AlbatrosD1 (Conversion FM)

PfalzD3

AlbatrosD2 (Conversion FM)

AlbatrosD3

AlbatrosDIII (Ateam)

AlbatrosD5a

Dr1

FokkerDVII

FokkerDVIIF

SchuckertD3

HalberstadtDII

Walfisch

Staaken

AviatikC2

DFWC5

GothaVI

FokkerBI

PfalzEIIIAO

PfalzEIIIO

There are planes from RAF in the ESC and vice versa but I was more worried about getting a chance to get all these new planes in a furball !!

No matter which country you choose there will be lots of plane upgrades so you won't be stuck in a plane for anywhere near as long as before. I have been thinking of changing the time between missions even. Maybe making them closer to give a bit more time in each plane.

I think right now im running 1 mission every 5 days. Planes are upgrading about every 2-4 months depening on variables. This should give anywhere from 12 to 24 missions per plane. Feel free to throw in ideas on that if you wish.

Im guessing if the winds are smooth and the gods favor me this weekend it wont be much longer.

The biggest thing so far is just flying each upgrades against its counterparts to see if my dates workout well and keep things interesting and not lop sided. Thank god for the mission builder for testing those ideas.

More info as I can.

Due to a few things that will become clear later I need a few extra days to do some tweaking on the new release still.

Im still working on it as we speak and will have this as soon as I can.

It will not be very much longer....