The word liberal means one who supports one strong central goverment. I don't know or care how other people use or think,when the word is said. I support a strong central goverment, the kingdom of God and this is what I think of when I hear the word. If it hadn't been for your sniping I would not spoke up. It shows what I meant about the two sides not talking. It was real nice of you to tell me to man up. "How many times have you heard terms like conservative, neo-con and so on bandied about as if they are the worst insults ever?," never because after my time in service I started work in Law Enforcement three yrs into this I was shotup in a gun battle with 2 killers, now I am homebound sitting in a wheel chair. bty one I killed and the other is coming up for parole. I never castigated you for anything, but you attack me because I thought you hated all liberals and dared to say so and I still think so. I tried to give another perspective but you did not want to hear it. " you even have a leader in the form of Eraser." I have no leader but God and his son JESUS. I assume the fourms are here help the players of TK's game, it doesn't anyone any good to run people off with hate talk from either side, our goal should help TK sell games and make money. I am sorry that I ever posted in the first place. If I have said anything to offend you I am truly sorry. I am sure that me not buying any more if tk games it will be no biggie to him but as you said "Your rep, your responsibility" so I think I think I will find a place of like minded people and play other games. Maybe one you can play all by myself.