Ali Elhaddad

Here its the full story from internet Thirty-six years after four Israeli air force pilots were shot down while on a flight mission in Iraq during the Six Day War, a helmet that may have belonged to one of the men, and which was on display in a Baghdad museum, was returned to Israel, Yediot Achronot On the third day of the Six Day War, June 7, 1967, Iraqi military forces shot down the planes of pilots Shlomo Keren, Alexander Metzger, Yitzhak Glanz and Gideon Dror while on a mission in Iraq. Keren and Metzger were killed while Glanz and Dror were captured and later released. The Air Force is investigating if the helmet discovered in the Baghdad museum belonged to one of the men. U.S. military forces discovered the helmet next to a scrap of metal bearing the traditional blue Star of David insignia of the Israeli air force which may have been a piece of wreckage from one of the planes. The interior of the helmet displayed a sticker reading: "Pilot Helmet Model HGU/2A-P; Manufactured: 1966; Size: Large; Number 16631; Oz Plastics, Azor Industrial Area." It is thought that the Iraqis exhibited the helmet as an example of war plunder after defeating the Israeli pilots. The helmet was transferred through the Israeli embassy in Jordan and when it arrived at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Jerusalem, it created a lot of excitement. "Holding something like this in your hands makes you shiver. You can actually see the blood stains," said a senior official. The helmet was then forwarded to the Ministry of Defense in Tel-Aviv and from there it will be transferred to the Missing In Action section of the Air Force to try to reveal the helmet's true owner. The four pilots had been dispatched to attack the Iraqi air force base H-3 in western Iraq after Israeli intelligence learned that the Egyptians had asked the Iraqis to attack IDF bases in Ramat David and Hatzor. Four "Miraz" planes from the Air Force's first jet squadron escorted four "Wotor" planes from the "Northern Knights" squadron. Jordanian radar discovered the planes en route and alerted Iraqi forces. Iraqi "Hunter" planes awaited the Israeli aircraft and managed to severely disrupt the attack, shooting down two "Wotor" planes and one "Miraz" fighter.

its actually a mig-21/23/25 helmet the mig17 had a leather helmet that covered the head and ears(black) it resembled the wwII helmet i remember when the regime of baghdad toppled and us marines quitely invaded baghdad, there was an ancedote where they found in the baghdad museum/ military museum a square glass cover for an israeli mirage helmet stained with blood related to six days war, and the israeli ambassador somewhere was called to recieve it himself it was related that he hold the helmet and said: " when one see things like that, he feels a cold shiver down the back of neck this was all about 8 months when i read that in Egypt main news paper "Alahram of which site is : ahram.org.eg in the following pics a picture of israeli ace giora rom( elevation) and the picture of egyptian ace sameh marey that was downed on his 5th kill on 26 feb-70 (side view)

Re: Mig-17 Re: Mig-17 First thing i have a great admiration to iaf test pilots like Danny shapira who examined every small nail in each aircraft they had, second this story i hsvr heared before like 8 years ago :) im already a big fan and it came to my mind like 6 days ago, if modelling the wings over israel mig17 matches the story or it does not... but i remembered that the aircraft maneuvers well at all speeds even the very high ones... despite modelling it to match the story would be fun, but it will make it quite harder, and it will give u the task of fighting like hit and run... like EAf used the mig17 during the war for unlike the Vietnamese people air force who used their mig in a tough way to head off the Crusader and the F-4 though i heared also of some stories regarding numerous claims of EAF against IAF f-4 and mirageIII planes, but very few claims, gun cams are present, i have seen some of them.... please do some modelling to make the story match wings over israel and not the opposite