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Can anyone direct me to a tutorial on mission building? I checked the knowledge base, but all I found that is useful to this effect is an explanation of the mission files. Thanks.

Well, it still doesn't like it.... I suppose I'll just have to stick with the SUU-23. Its okay - I'm just a historical nut. I'll get over it. Thanks for everyone's help!

Yes, I do save the weapons editor every time... When you say to "set the SpecificStationCode=SUU16 on the pylon" - do you mean in the F-4C's Loadout.ini on the center pylon? What exactly goes there - I tried SUU16, but that didn't work...? How do I give it the entry the same code? Sorry if my questions are kinda duh principles...

No good. The years are set at 0. Tried attaching; came up as Empty. I tried giving it it's own folder and copied the SUU23.ini and changed the name of hte LOD files inside to match the LOD files of the SUU-16. No good. I tried moving those files outside of the folder, but that didn't work. Oh well...

There are two files that sit freely in the weapons folder. One is SUU-16.bmp and the other is SUU-16.LOD

Yes, I can see it in the weapons editor list. I checked the article that you linked. I don't know if the coding is a bit different in SF2, but mine in WOV didn't have a Diameter limit or Load limit. Here is what was in my F-4C_DATA.ini [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=6 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,0.37,-1.01 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2050 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,LGB,NUC,GP,LP,IFP,DLP,MER,RCN AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_centerline PylonMass=32.21 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= And, here is the SUU-16 entry in the Weapons Editor: [WeaponData326] TypeName=SUU16 FullName=SUU-16/A Gun Pod ModelName=SUU-16 Mass=772.010010 Diameter=0.560000 Length=5.050000 SubsonicDragCoeff=0.200000 SupersonicDragCoeff=0.770000 AttachmentType=USAF,USN SpecificStationCode= NationName=USAF StartYear=1965 EndYear=1975 Availability=1 BaseQuantity=12 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1965 ExportEndYear=1975 ExportAvailability=1 WeaponDataType=3 GunTypeName=20MM_M61A1 MaxRounds=1140 MuzzlePosition=0.000000,2.881000,-0.033000 LightPosition=0.000000,2.900000,-0.033000 AimDirection=0.000000,1.000000,0.000000 EjectShells=1 EjectPosition=0.319000,-0.171000,0.000000 EjectVelocity=1.000000,0.000000,-2.000000

Okay: Here is EXACTLY what I have done. Clean Install Added Oct 2008 patch Added MF Weapons Pack from 1-29-09 I then took another weapons pack from Jul 3, 06, and installed that into a temporary folder. I took the SUU-16 files (there were two - a bitmap and lod file), and placed them into the Objects/Weapons folder. I copied the SUU-16 entries from the Jul 3 06 WepPak WEAPONDATA.ini, and added it to my WOV WEAPONDATA.ini. Then I did the Weapon Editor procedure. I opened up WoV, and selected F-4C. When I go to the loadout screen, the SUU-16 is not listed as an option. There's my situation. Thanks so much for all your help! You guys jump through hoops just to help a historical nut like me!

Checked it, but it doesn't have any info on what I need. Basically, I just want the F-4C to have the capability to carry the weapon.

Okay - thanks. I found and downloaded that. Now, does anyone know how to add a weapon onto an aircraft's arsenal? I didn't want to install that weapons pack over my install, because I already have several mods and stuff and the Mirage Factory weapons pack, so I installed it into a temporary folder and took the SUU-16 out and put it into my install. However, it doesn't show up in any aircrafts choices of weapons. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Hello all, Does anyone know if there is an SUU-16 gunpod anywhere? I don't know about anyone else out there, but I am a realism freak, and a historical accuracy freak...but there's no SUU-16 gunpod out there that I can find. Thanks.

Thanks a whole lot for your fast replies!

Hey everyone, I just got myself Wings Over Vietnam, and I've been happily adding aircraft and stuff. Love what all of you are doing. To get to the point: Is there any way to change the order of appearance on the aircraft drop-down lists in-game (such as when you're in single missions)? Does that have anything to do with the order in the main Aircraft folder? Hope I don't bore too many of you with my dumb questions..

Thanks for the tips everyone. I may buy SF2 Israel, but I need to build myself a desktop first (only have a laptop, which can't handle it)... PS, I'm taking off that downloaded install.

Downloaded it from somewhere - wanted to try it before I bought it... So the problem should fix itself when I buy and install from the disc?

Hey everyone, I'm a little new here, so bear with me if this is an obvious problem... The stock aircraft in my WOI install are having issues. The markings and all show up, but everything else is white. Example: On the Mirage IIICJ, the squadron markings, national markings, and diagonal red strips on the rudder show up, but where the paint job should be is white. On the F-4E, the fuselage shows white, and the wings have the proper paint job. Whats up with this??? It isn't exactly a crucial problem - nothing with flying or anything, but I kinda want a good look on these things. BTW, I have several extra aircraft, and their skin's show up fine. Can anyone help??? Thanks.