subarug

Libya would be good. Having an ocean would be helpful. Plus when Invincible charlie was chasing Shin it was the seagulls that took out mr. Invincible! heheheh

Hope to integrate some of this ;)

That looks good. Anything that looks like Libya or Iran, nice and sand dune like. Your screenshot gave me an idea. Is that airstrip unpaved? In Area 88 the Asran Air Force operates all the military installations, but I was thinking, most of the Ant-Government Forces (Opposition forces) should operate from makeshift unpaved strips. Not neccessary but would be cool

Great so I believe we have Cocas and Maclena for certain (correct me if im wrong mac, I dont want to nominate anyone arbitraily) As far as terriain we need desert, long big sand dunes, mountains. Mountains wouldnt be high enough to have snow caps though, shouldnt be to brown either Some sparse greenage could be at the edges of the map for long distance missions to give a little variety, but mostly sand dunes.. In FACT if there would be someway to change colouring of inclement fog to make it look like a sand storm, that would be incredible.

Judas Priest! A gold mine! That is a great find and im sure would help get a kick start on this! So right there... The Crusader, Tiger II, Draken, A-10, Tomcat, Thud, Kfir (although on a dagger model) and MiG-23 (for Modern series) are done. Tonight I started a screen shot library for reference in helping for skin development. I can zip it and send it wherever it needs to go

LOL! Didnt mean that the way it seemed Grinch. I agree. Using whatever is already out there is the best way to go. When I tried the first time, the terrain was the biggest issue as it just didnt seem right flying over green hills all the time. Luckily, I think for most the aircraft, its already out there with the exception of a few, so hopefully, that makes hitting the ground running a bit easier. I hope I did not offend! I did not mean to make it sound like you had a new job ;) I have any and all reference you would need. Repaints i think are mostly whats in order. Blackburn Bucc doesnt exist yet, so thats not an issue, and Im pretty sure everything else has been released already in some form. Certain repaints wont even be needed.

Area 88 Modern Mission Briefing Track Some stuff I worked on in 05 for this 17_Area_88_____20316___25126___20250___35696___65308___65325___65298___65300___65310_.mp3

wish I could model and/or program. At this point all I can assist with is Direction, artwork, music, and data. But I would like to be very much a part of the project. I have multiple Ideas for the campaign modes... In either Classic or Modern, the storyline would roughly follow that of their respective version with the exclusion of some things that wouldnt fit in the sim. A monetary system would be developed and associated with everything. Destroying enemy targets gains money, just taking your plane in the air spends money. Crash your plane, you gotta buy another! A "Free play" mode would also be included where as the player can play instant action style missions. In Free play, not all aircraft would be available. Gives a reason to play the campaign mode. Loadout/Weapon purchase screen will have the player purchasing equipment from McCoy himself. Ive got more stuff to come, im just spouting out whats in my head at the moment. Anyone who wants to work on the project can email me at subarug@msn.com and I can co ordinate everyone from there.

Brilliant! Here we go. Lets get rolling. So we have Cocas on Campaign .Ini's Grinch on skins macelena on models? Let me start fleshing out some of the campaign ideas,missions, game flow chart, I already have the music sorted and available as well as all the artwork. This is a quick, incomplete break down of some of the aircraft that should be involved...(Maybe some errors) Area 88 Classic 79-84 Kingdom of Asran Mercenary Air Force A-1 Skyraider (Manga) A-4E Skyhawk (Greg) A-10 Thunderbolt II (Greg) F-4J/E Phantom II (Bugsy) F-5E Tiger II (Shin) F-8E Crusader (Shin) (Boris) F-14 Tomcat (no RIO) (Micky) F-15 Eagle (Shin) (Manga) F-16A Fighting Falcon F/A-18A Hornet F-20 Tigershark (Shin) F-100D Super Saber (Micky) F-104 Starfighter (Manga) F-105D Thunderchief (Von Com) T-6 Texan (Morris) (Manga) BAC Lightning F.6 (Escape Killers) IAI Kfir C2 (Saki) J-35F Draken (Shin) (Manga) Anti-Government Forces MiG-17 Fresco MiG-21 Fishbed MiG-23 Flogger MiG-27D Flogger Sea Harrier FRS Mk.1 Also would have standard period accurate anti-air and anti-personnel/vehicle defenses of Soviet manufacture Area 88 Modern 82-88 ('ish) Kingdom of Asran Mercenary Air Force A-4E Skyhawk (Greg) F-4J/E Phantom II F-5E Tiger II (Shin) F-8E Crusader (Shin) (Boris) F-14 Tomcat (no RIO) (Micky) F-20 Tigershark (Shin) J-35F Draken AV-8A Harrier II (Kim) Mirage F-1 (Katori) Buccaneer (Roundell) Anti-Government Forces MiG-17 Fresco MiG-21 Fishbed MiG-23 Flogger Tu-95 Bear Also would have standard period accurate anti-air and anti-personnel/vehicle defenses of Soviet manufacture

Fantastic, we may be able to do ok with what is already in exsitence. I will PM you my email ( Id post it but im not sure that is allowed?) so We can communicate in greater detail. Any of the desert terrain (Israel or Iran is perfect) would suffice. Fictional State is Asran which is located in the middle east. Time period for the "classic" series would be 79-82, for the "Modern" it would be closer to 84-87 or so. So Cocas would you like to start a little project with me? Post here is so, and I will PM you.

Back in 05, there was at a MINIMUM a F-8 Area 88 skin, F-20, MiG-29, Drakken, and Tomcat, so I know the resources are out there, its just a matter of rounding everyone up. Like I said I can provide all reference material, soundtracks, I even can whip up storyboards. I had some good ideas for Campaigns.... One would be Area 88 "Classic" Art, Music, and story line derived from the OVA and or even better, the Manga. Then we could have Area 88 "Modern" Artwork from the new series as well as music, and the different aircraft usage and storyline. I could further flesh out some ideas I had about the individual campaigns and how they could work but, I don't want to go into anymore detail if im just talking to myself lol. Rest assured it could be quite exciting!

Nada? Dead idea?

I have been on the forums since 05. There was a really outstanding mod being made for Falcon 4 based on the Angola conflict. Did it die out?

I can understand personal issues getting in the way of life (cough divorce! ahem) But that is such a disappointment. The level of detail was incredible, the models and textures were amazing, the had so much help from military sources on both sides, it was the one I was waiting for. All that leaves for me now is Jet Thunder :)

This is prob old...but a few years ago when the Burning Sands came out, I was looking very hard to try and find a group of people to work on Area 88 mod. It didn't get very far at the time and was dropped I think. I don't have any modeling skills but what I do have is prob one of the largest libraries of Area 88 Info to help and contribute with including, Original OVA, Modern TV Series, Area 88 Cyber Trance Soundtrack, Sound Files 1, OVA Soundtrack, and issue 1-37 of the orig Eclipse comic books. I envisioned a combination of the OVA and new series, using the best bits of both worlds. Utilizing the soundtrack for breifing scenes, dogfights, well you can see where I am going with this. I can hand draw some things as well if needed. I did a cover that was never used, I will post it. Anyway, if anyone would like to start something up like this again, get in touch with me ASAP and we will make it happen.

Not sure if there are any Area 88 Manga or Anime fans out there that Mod....but if there are I would love to see a Shin Kazama Skinned F-5 and F-8, that would make my flying dreams come true!

FANTASTIC! MORE MORE MORE!

I just picked up a Saitek X52 Flight controller and to say I am impressed is an understatement! http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm At first I thought it was way to pricey, and then I decided to go out on a limb and give it a go... Fantastic Feel and Finish, high quality components, everything seems well thought out... more buttons and shift keys that I can throw a stick at! So far I have only tested with FS2004 but talk about a life changing experience! I highly recommend this device to anyone interested in a high quality gaming (not professional) Flight Controller system. I picked mine up at Comp USA for 129.99 They had one on display and one feel of the throttle stick and I was taken!

I Give a lot of credit to the Israeli Air Force... This partially because they have had frequent conflict opportunities to keep the scores up. Amo's confirmed 39 air to air kills is the record to beat I believe (from osprey's Mirage and Nesher Aces)

LoL Your right... That was on my list... I remember I had a book called Great warplanes of the 1980's which had some great pull outs and skematics, and when I got to the B-1 and saw its payload options, I almost passed out.Awesome plane...its just to bad it has a tricky past with a lot of accidents.

As much as I love the Vulcan as a statement for me at least of my British heritage,every nation (mostly) has had some beautiful aircraft... P-51 Corsair F-16 Su-27 Tu-160 Spitfire Vulcan Lightning Etendard Mirage 2000 Rafale BF-109 I mean the list can go on and on... What I think is interesting is how diff. needs, and design techniques can create such diff. end results. Whenever I get time to visit my family back in Foxholes, I can only hope the Vulcan is in the air.

The Victor was from Freeware FS Master Kazunori Ito Here is the Vulcan W/ Blue Steel equipped...

Just got the X52... By far the most impressive, responsive feature packed controller I have ever had the joy of owning!

Victor from FS2004

I had recently put up a post in the WoV Camp. regarding an idea for an expansion, and I felt it would fit into WoV's game world rather well...but There hasn't been a lot of response (any..lol) so I'll post a link to the thread here and If any other Modder's out would like to try this for another Sim, that would be awesome. In any event here is the thread... http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=9027 And all the artwork in that thread is old so to show what might be done on a mod of this subject, here are some new drawings I whipped up in about an hour or so.... Small Versions in case previous were too large... I would love to help do Art, Story,Mission Ideas, Music or anything for a Area 88 based expansion. Hopefully there are some other fans out there too! Thanks All! Cheers!