kct Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) Is there a way to use a different weapon rack for dual A2A missiles (like the Sparrows and AAMRAMs) on a pylon, since whenever I load a pair of AAMRAMs (this is for testing) onto a pylon, they would be using the LAU-105 rails, which would obviously 'join' the Sidewinders above it. What I wanted to create is something like this (pic shown), in which I want to use another weapons rack for the said missiles, instead of the LAU-105 rails. I tested it with 'Use Launch Rails' checked (especially the Sparrows), but I could not load dual Sparrows on each pylon (unless I mess with the loadout.ini, but then again I could only use one particular Sparrow version), and the AAMRAMs would still use the LAU-105 rails. Both Bunyap's WP and MF's WP were installed. This is the weapons station for the 2ARs: [LeftInnerWingStationAHM] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.05,2.74,-1.23 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2400 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM,2AR AttachmentType=NATO,USAF LaunchRailNodeName=2BR_USN_AHM ;ModelNodeName=wing_pylon_inner_left ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailHeight= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [RightInnerWingStationAHM] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.05,2.74,-1.23 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2400 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM,2AR AttachmentType=NATO,USAF LaunchRailNodeName=2BR_USN_AHM ;ModelNodeName=wing_pylon_inner_right ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailHeight= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= This is the weapons rack that I intend to use: [WeaponData2147] TypeName=2BR_USN_AHM FullName=AAMRAM x2 ModelName=bru-55_mav Mass=120.000000 Diameter=0.230000 Length=1.770000 AttachmentType=USAF,USN NationName=USAF StartYear=1980 EndYear=2025 Availability=3 BaseQuantity=10 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1980 ExportEndYear=2050 ExportAvailability=3 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2AR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=500.000000 LengthLimit=5.000000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.342000,0.000000,-0.210000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Attachment02Position=-0.342000,0.000000,-0.210000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Edited April 21, 2008 by kct Quote
+Gocad Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 I would say that it shouldn't be a problem to create another missile rack by reusing ,let's say, a dual bomb rack, but what won't work is creating a dual Sparrow rack, since there isn't a rack type for it. (2IR is for IRMs and 2AR for AHMs only) Quote
kct Posted April 21, 2008 Author Posted April 21, 2008 Yeah, I somewhat forgot about that from the moment I tried to play with multiple Skyflashes on a Phantom FGR.2. But still, how can I make the AAMRAMs use another rack? Quote
+Gocad Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) Good question. Why did you remove the pylon information? Here's something to look at My (actually more like FastCargo's) dual AHM rack: [WeaponData842] TypeName=LAU-116 FullName=LAU-116 DRA ModelName=LAU-105 Mass=73.029999 Diameter=0.100000 Length=2.800000 AttachmentType=NATO,USAF,USN NationName=USN StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=4 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=2 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2AR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=325.000000 LengthLimit=3.900000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.282000,0.000000,-0.020000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,-5156.620156 Attachment02Position=-0.282000,0.000000,-0.020000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,5156.620156 and here's a working dual AHM station (MF F/A-18 Hornet) [RightInnerWingAHMStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=19 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,2AR AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=RightPyl LaunchRailNodeName=LAU-105 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 In theory all this should work with other rack models or aircraft. EDIT: Wait, I have found something: [WeaponData2147]TypeName=2BR_USN_AHM FullName=AAMRAM x2 ModelName=bru-55_mav Mass=120.000000 Diameter=0.230000 Length=1.770000 You can't load AMRAAMs on this rack because they exceed the length limit. You'll need to set the length value to at least '3.700000'. Edited April 21, 2008 by Gocad Quote
kct Posted April 21, 2008 Author Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) Nope, already tested, the AAMRAMs still use the LAU-105 rails. Current tweaks: [WeaponData2147] TypeName=2BR_USN_AHM FullName=AAMRAM x2 ModelName=bru-55_mav Mass=120.000000 Diameter=0.230000 Length=3.770000 AttachmentType=NATO,USAF,USN NationName=USAF StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=4 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=2 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2AR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=500.000000 LengthLimit=5.000000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.342000,0.000000,-0.210000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Attachment02Position=-0.342000,0.000000,-0.210000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Weapons stations: [LeftInnerWingStationAHM] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.05,2.74,-1.23 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2400 AllowedWeaponClass=2AR,SAHM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USAF LaunchRailNodeName=2BR_USN_Mav2 ;ModelNodeName=wing_pylon_inner_left ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailHeight= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [RightInnerWingStationAHM] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.05,2.74,-1.23 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2400 AllowedWeaponClass=2AR,SAHM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USAF LaunchRailNodeName=2BR_USN_Mav2 ;ModelNodeName=wing_pylon_inner_right ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailHeight= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= To further describe my predicament: Edited April 21, 2008 by kct Quote
Wraith27 Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) I use for AMRAAM's british 2IR rack(changed for USN 2AR). But it works only when it is declared in loadout.ini file. I think that when it be changed in game loadout menu the game takes first exist rack from top of the weapondata.ini file. If there exist 2 dual AHM rack's (for example for USN) program take's the first only. Edited April 21, 2008 by CIACHO Quote
+FastCargo Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 CIACHO is correct. The program will use the first rack it comes across that meets the criteria. Try switching the racks in the weapondata.ini file, then use the weapons editor. The only problem is that this will affect EVERY aircraft that the missile and rack are used in combo. FastCargo Quote
kct Posted April 22, 2008 Author Posted April 22, 2008 Ah, in which the ONLY aircraft that I have that will be affected is the Vampire. Quote
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