Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Some times ago FastCargo add this new pylons with canards to make Su-33 but we ask him to make a mod without canards -only pylons Any news ???? Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 It`s not so difficult was thinkin about doing this myself.... What versions of Su`s use this?! Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) It`s not so difficult was thinkin about doing this myself.... What versions of Su`s use this?! If I know only the earlier production series of basic Su-27 doesn't have them but I dont remember that I saw Su-27 with this pylon. But new Su-35BM and modificated Su-27SM have this pylons and doesn't have canards. Some times ago somebody (maby capun but I'm not sure) make pylons which can be added to any aircraft but those made by FastCargo looks more realistic. Edited May 14, 2008 by CIACHO Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 If you can make a List I can make the Pylons! Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 If you can make a List I can make the Pylons! I don't understand :"list" of what (sorry maby it's my english ) Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 List of Su-27 variants so we can create our own mod of this bird.. ;-) My english isn`t good too so no prob .. Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 It's a very simple INI edition, nothing magical or requiring FC's intervention... Just correct me if I'm wrong, what you want is a Su-27S with the [side]InnerStation2 of the Su-33 to simulate a Su-27SM ? If you really have no clue how to do it, I'll post what you have to do, if someone else doesn't before I get the time to. Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Ini editing ?? and what about a Pylon?! I wanted to create this evening the Pylon per 3DsMax. How do you do it?! Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 The pylon is already there... always was, all you have to make sure is that you follow FC's instruction and copy and rename one of the wings' BMP to Su27Pylons.bmp and copy it at the root of the Aircraft folder. Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 List of Su-27 variants so we can create our own mod of this bird.. ;-) My english isn`t good too so no prob .. You mean You can make this pylon new or use those made by capun (or somebody). The list of one seat version of Su-27 witchout canards and with Internal pylons is short: Su-27 basic but later production(I'm not sure) Su-27SM Modification of basic Su-27 Russian Air Force with Air to ground weapons, R-77 missiles etc Su-35BM (mean Big Modification funny this short mean that same in russish and english ) Pictures: For those bird new skin will be great and if You look carefuly You see that he has'nt got a fuselage airbrake Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Ok your right but the Pylon is linked to the canards of FC, cause it`S one LOD! There are no sepreate pylons without canards Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 The pylon is already there... always was, all you have to make sure is that you follow FC's instruction and copy and rename one of the wings' BMP to Su27Pylons.bmp and copy it at the root of the Aircraft folder. YOU SAY that the Marcfighter Su-27 has this internal pylons but they are not used??????????????????????????????????????? Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 I think he means the one from FC I think You are right...Why people dont read the first post Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 No, FC has pylons, and yes, I forgot he bundled both pylons and canards into the same LOD, which is inelegant even thouh more efficient, and means you are right. Quote
Wraith27 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) Ini editing ?? and what about a Pylon?! I wanted to create this evening the Pylon per 3DsMax. How do you do it?! One important thing: When You look at FC pylons: They look good but I think that they are to far from the fuselage like here (not a real picture but looks corectly) Edited May 14, 2008 by CIACHO Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Oddly enough, I asked FC about this very issue a few days ago. I was trying to make a variant for myself that was essentially just an Su-27 with the additional hardpoints. I figured I'd follow FC's instructions about adding the Su-33 mini mod, except not actually adding the canards. Only, after doing this and removing the entry for the canards, I noticed that the canards were still being applied to the aircraft. Since the canards were blue, I figured they were using my existing canards so I went about creating a new plane who's file name and inis were named Su-26 (in game it was still an Su-27). This time, no canards, but no pylons either... I've missed something... Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 You missed nothing, the pylons and the canards are one piece, if you delete the entry for the canards, the canards won't show up, but the pylons won't too, even though there will be "phantom" pylons as they are still present in the INI file. Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 One important thing: When You look at FC pylons: They look good but I think that they are to far from the fuselage like here Btw, the two larger inner pylons on an Su-33 aren't spaced equally. The wing folding mechanism is located between two pylons, so it has to be offset slightly. Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 You missed nothing, the pylons and the canards are one piece, if you delete the entry for the canards, the canards won't show up, but the pylons won't too, even though there will be "phantom" pylons as they are still present in the INI file. Damn... That's what I was afraid of... ...think I'm gonna have to whip up some pylons in gmax when I get some free time. :yes: Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 I will have finished them this or next evening. If you like?! Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 I will have finished them this or next evening. If you like?! Well, I haven't even started yet. If you woulf like to do the honours, don't let me get in your way... Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 it`s not hard to do this they are about 20 polys or so.. not so much Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) Mh what is new?! If there is any interest I will release it, as soon as Ì`m finished with the loadouts and ini editing. Edited May 15, 2008 by 76.IAP-Blackbird Quote
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