New pod's for Su-17M, Su-17M2, Su-17M3, Su-22M

[+lindr2 19]

Know you or not, but all planes of Su-17/22 Mig-27 family can use ARM missile ONLY with 2 special pod's

 

1) L-086 V'yuga for Kh-58, Kh-27 , 2) Metel for Kh-28

 

Su-17M, Su-22M can use only 1 Kh-28 on special pylon + metel pod, Su-17M3 can us 2x Kh-58 or Kh-27 with L-086 pod or 1 Kh-28 1 Kh-28 on special pylon + metel pod

 

For using CGR MIg-23M,ML,MLD,Su-17M2,Su-17M3,Su-17M4,Su-22M,Su-22M3,Su-22M4 needs Delta-NG pod? Su-17 noot nned this, because control eqipm placed on this air intake.

 

I made Metel, V'yuga, Kh-28 pylon LOD's, working on Delta-NG, early i made Projector - laser pod for Su-17M2 only (Su-17M cant' use LGR , Su-17M3,M4,Su-22M3,Su-22M4 have internal LP (Klen-PS,Klen-54))

 

All of them + MIG-23/27 update data.in + loadout will be included in new version Su-17/22 pack

 

Su-17M with TYPICAL SEAD LOADOUT ECM pod SPS-141-1F + Metel SAM finder + Kh-28

 

 

 

Su-22M with TYPICAL SEAD LOADOUT ECM pod SPS-141-1F + Metel SAM finder + Kh-28

 

 

Su-17M3 with TYPICAL SEAD LOADOUT ECM pod SPS-141-MV + V'yuga SAM finder + 2*Kh-58

 

Edited January 11, 2009 by lindr2

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,544]

Looks good than you!

[Wraith27 6]

YES! Wjuga and Metiel will be very nicely!

 

But two things:

 

1: In my knowledge Su-17/22M2/3 version has internal "Fon" LP witch can only check the distance. Maby some later M3 version has Klon/Klen...I'm not sure...

 

2: About picture 4 -Fitter with kh-58: this missile can be added only for fuselage pylons -but Kh-27/25MP are only 2 on external wings pylons :http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=28952

[+lindr2 19]

YES! Wjuga and Metiel will be very nicely!

 

But two things:

 

1: In my knowledge Su-17/22M2/3 version has internal "Fon" LP witch can only check the distance. Maby some later M3 version has Klon/Klen...I'm not sure...

 

2: About picture 4 -Fitter with kh-58: this missile can be added only for fuselage pylons -but Kh-27/25MP are only 2 on external wings pylons :http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=28952

 

1) Su-17, Su-17M, Su-20A,B - NONE

 

Su-17M2 - Laser range meter 'Fon' + LP 'Projector' on pylon ~ 6-12 Deg Gimble Limit, only LGR

 

Su-22(Export version of Su-17M2 with R-29B engine) - NONE

 

Su-17M3 Early (1976-1977) - Laser range meter 'Fon' + LP 'Projector' on pylon ~ 6-12 Deg Gimble Limit, only LGR

 

Su-17M3(since N39 factory serie 1978 year) - Laser designator Klen-PS - 30 Deg gimble limit - only LGR

 

Su-22M(Export version of Su-17M3 with R-29BS engine) - Laser range meter 'Fon'

 

Su-22M3(Export version of Su-17M3 with R-29BS-300 engine) - Laser designator Klen-PS - 30 Deg gimble limit - only LGR

 

Su-17M4/22M4 - Laser designator Klen-54 120 Deg gimble limit LGR,LGB,EOGR,EOGB

 

2) You right, but i need special pylons for use Kh-58 on fuselage, missiles must move forward to prevent L086 pod contact, i can't make new special station for KH-58 because game have only 6 weapons group restriction

 

P.S. i made Delta-NG2, L066 (V'yuga for MiG's-23-27) Pod's just wait sreenshots...

[+lindr2 19]

OK! new screenshots! Wanna new new ini for Mig-23's,27's?

 

MiG-27D with L066 pod + Kh-27PS missiles

 

 

MiG-23MLD with Delta-NG2 pod (not sure about position, some sources said: 'pod on left wing 1 missile on right wing', or 'Pod placed on unused rear fuselage pylon(almost MIG-23's have 2 rear fuselage pylons for bombs, but they NEVER USED, and demounted at once on air bases) + 2 Kh-25R missiles

 

 

Su-22M with Delta-NG2 pod

 

 

MiG-27 with Delta-NG2 pod

 

[Murphy'S 15]

when i see all this stuff i wish to have proper pit for the mig-27 series.

 

"i have i dream!!!" ahem don't pay attention to this, just too much drinking

 

but as we live in sfp1 world, who knows what some talentuous modders can do?

[Wraith27 6]

2) You right, but i need special pylons for use Kh-58 on fuselage, missiles must move forward to prevent L086 pod contact, i can't make new special station for KH-58 because game have only 6 weapons group restriction

 

P.S. i made Delta-NG2, L066 (V'yuga for MiG's-23-27) Pod's just wait sreenshots...

 

1: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6556

 

2:

 

1,2 station :BOMB,RP

1s,2s:FT and maby GP but I'm not sure...

1r,2r: ARM,CGR,LGR,EOGR and RCKT like s-24 but not sure

7,8:BOMB

 

Problem is, that all existence for TW series Su-17/20/22 models has only four fuselage stations: 1,2,7,8 so trying to make realistic attachments is dificult...

 

Not sure why 6 groups are not enough for You:

 

1 group: 3,4

2 group: 9,10

3 group: 5

4 group: 6

5 group: 0,1,2,1s,2s,1r,2r,7,8

 

so You have one group free for some pylons...like my AKU-58 from my mod

 

3: maby this help...

 

http://www.military.cz/russia/air/weapons/...gondola_DNG.jpg

 

http://aerospace.boopidoo.com/philez/Su-15...%20Avionics.htm

[+lindr2 19]

For Su-17M3 If you want, you can add AKU

 

[LeftWingStationOutboard]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-2.4869,-3.7829,-0.1458

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,FT,MER,ARM,LGR,CGR,GP

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=pylon_left_outer

PylonMass=60

FuelTankName=PTB-800

 

[RightWingStationOutboard]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=2.4645,-3.7676,-0.1316

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,FT,MER,ARM,LGR,CGR,GP

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=pylon_right_outer

PylonMass=60

FuelTankName=PTB-800

 

[LeftWingStationInboard]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.1945,-0.6900,0.0115

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,EP

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner

PylonMass=90

 

[RightWingStationInboard]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.2121,-0.6751,0.0000

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,NP

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner

PylonMass=90

 

[LeftFrontFuselageStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.4247,-2.3246,-0.2169

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-22.5

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,LGR,ARM,CGR,GP,NUC,RCN,MER

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=central_pylon_front_left

PylonMass=90

 

[RightFrontFuselageStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=00.4397,-2.3246,-0.2169

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,22.5

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,LGR,ARM,CGR,GP,RCN,MER

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=central_pylon_front_right

PylonMass=90

 

[LeftBackFuselageStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-0.4247,-4.5685,-0.2169

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-22.5

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT,MER

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=central_pylon_back_left

PylonMass=90

FuelTankName=PTB-800

 

[RightBackFuselageStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=8

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.4397,-4.5685,-0.2169

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,22.5

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT,MER

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=central_pylon_back_right

PylonMass=90

FuelTankName=PTB-800

 

[LeftIRStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=9

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.7508,-1.9922,0.1901

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=left_ir_pylon

PylonMass=90

 

[RightIRStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=10

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.6813,-1.9922,0.1901

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=750.0

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=right_ir_pylon

PylonMass=90

 

[Kh-28Station]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=11

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0,-3.4246,-0.3869

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=850.0

AllowedWeaponClass=ARM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Centerline_Pylon

PylonMass=90

 

[Kh-28Pylon]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=12

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-3.4246,0.0369

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=30.0

AllowedWeaponClass=FT

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Centerline_Pylon

PylonMass=90

FuelTankName=Kh-28_pylon

NoJettisionTank=TRUE

 

[V'yugaStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=13

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-4.4246,0.1169

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=300.0

AllowedWeaponClass=NP

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Centerline_Pylon

PylonMass=90

[+Crusader 2,050]

lindr2,

great project for this Red Star mud mover !

[+lindr2 19]

'missed' item in Su-17 family Su-17M2 - (export version Su-22, with R-29B engine), i add navigation complex NK-23 like Fake pilot on nose.

 

[+lindr2 19]

Lybian Su-22

 

 

MiG-27M with Kh-28 & Metel Pod ~ 1976-78 years