charlielima 328 Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) I heard somewhere that people who are called cynical have a more elevated sense of awareness then other people. Bikinis or not, a hop in a Collins boat would be bitchin. :ph34r: CL Edited January 20, 2009 by charlielima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted January 19, 2009 Is it really this bad? I didn't even know anything like this was happening until I was actually contacted to be recruited by the ADF after leaving the US military. Skills shortage is a big issue here. It's relatively easy to gains skills in the ADF, but once gained, the ADF just doesn't pay as well as industry. And flexibility is always an issue. I mean, once I finish my training and complete all the modules required to become a vehicle commander, I'll be making about the same hourly rate as what I'm making in my civvie job now (which is still less than when I was working in Libraries and the University system). I think if the pay for entry level jobs in the navy was something along the lines of 45-60k per year (as opposed to the 30k-ish now), and maybe tax free like the reserves, more people would see the cost of being away for so long as much less of an issue. There are lots of other reasons too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost029 1 Posted January 20, 2009 And just for the record, I apologise if that sounds a little cynical, but if I go to one more godd***ed job interview where they ask me stupid questions about it, I'll snap! I mean, when I used to work at the University of Adelaide, a few particularly "intellectually obsolete" people in my department I worked in thought people who committed lower level crimes were given the choice of joining the army or going to jail!! From what I've been getting over the years, the average Australian's attitude towards the services is pretty apathetic unless its about the cost of a new platform or our troops are somewhere. Then they suddenly have an opinion. By the way, Ghost, we have six conventionally powered Collins class subs in our 40 ship navy. They're kickass little platforms too, once they got the majority of the bugs out of their systems. Even nailed the amphibious assault ships USS Tarawa amd USS Rushmore during Rimpac 2002 Sorry, I though I had read that 2 or 3 were put out of service to keep the rest in service. Absolutely no slight intended on the Collins class, they are outstanding when properly handled as you have shown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted January 20, 2009 No offense taken at all dude. I think that was the situation with the Oberons before they were laid up, not sure though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
