Windows 7 problems

[Von Paulus 8]

You will also need Directx 9.0C Redistributable; there's a .dll file that's not installed with Dx10/11 that CFS3 looks for.

almccoyjr could you tell me if installing last DirectX End-User Runtime that wouldn't also install that missing dll?

 

You are right - my bad. Probably why you get paid for this stuff.

Yes, the problem is that almost all my client now play on consoles. So unfortunately I don't get much paid for this kind of things. Sign of the times.

And most of the PC gamers nowadays, like you Barkhorn, they really have very good computer/system knowledge and know what they are doing.

[Ras 0]

Hey Ras,

 

Sorry to see you having problems. I'm running W7-64_Ult and it is better than XP_32/64 IMO. How, or what procedures did you use to uninstall and clean besides CC? Did you remove entry from Documents and also from Users/Roaming? These two areas are "normally" missed by most uninstallers/cleaners. You shouldn't have to run regedit since those entries will be properly overwritten.

 

You will also need Directx 9.0C Redistributable; there's a .dll file that's not installed with Dx10/11 that CFS3 looks for.

 

You don't need to rename the shortcut, just run compatibility XP SP3 and as Admin., but you must do a clean install, as you already know.

 

I'll be circling.

 

plug_nickel

 

 

I found the Directx 9.0C Redistributable but what do i do with it? I don't want it to interfere with Directx 11. If there is any chance of that, won't mess with the system. Your help is appreciated

[almccoyjr 7]

I found the Directx 9.0C Redistributable but what do i do with it? I don't want it to interfere with Directx 11. If there is any chance of that, won't mess with the system. Your help is appreciated

Simply install it. It will not interfere with Dx10/11. It'll install in it's own folder and will have the .dll's CFS3 is needing.

 

plug_nickel

 

ps, I've kept all my Dx's from 7 on just in case and have them all installed without any problems what so ever. Some of my "older" games need 8 or 9 when running in compatibility mode.

[Von Paulus 8]

Run it. Don't worry it won't mess really. And then you can run again that directx user end that you've download that will update whatever it will need to be.

[almccoyjr 7]

almccoyjr could you tell me if installing last DirectX End-User Runtime that wouldn't also install that missing dll?

Simply installing Dx10/11 doesn't install other .dll files "older" games need. MS doesn't want to extend legacy support since most vc vendors have stopped writing drivers that include the necessary support for "older" Dx7/8/9 games.

 

So depending on the driver/dx mix, you may or may not have all the necessary support files needed. At least with Dx the remedy is easy; simply install the last redistributable for that series, i.e., Dx9.0c. There's no conflict what so ever.

 

Drivers are another matter. So far, I've been able to get some older XP64 and Vista64 Nvidia drivers to run properly under W7-64 while in compatibility mode. The flexibility of W7 is really outstanding IMO. I'm currently experimenting with FF5 and various XP/Vista drivers seeing just current and uncorrupted I can get. It's a real pita though. When the OS crashes under these circumstances, you can put a fork in it. A full clean reinstall is required before proceeding to the next trial driver.

 

plug_nickel

Edited May 25, 2010 by almccoyjr

[Von Paulus 8]

Interesting. But tell me, you only use the redistributable version, not the SDK, right?

You don't need SDK right?

Anyway the DirectX End User time has at least some dx9 files when I uncompress.

But maybe it's like you say it doesn't have all.

Edited May 25, 2010 by Von Paulus

[almccoyjr 7]

Interesting. But tell me, you only use the redistributable version, not the SDK, right?

You don't need SDK right?

Anyway the DirectX End User time has at least some dx9 files when I uncompress.

But maybe it's like you say it doesn't have all.

That's correct. The Redistributable version is the one to use, not the SDK. As to why some Dx9 files are installed and others aren't, even MS support wasn't able to answer that question. It seems that there are 3 very critical .dll's that are left out, one of them being a direct3 file that CFS3 must have. I suspect it's in relation to gpu driver support and dropping legacy.

 

plug_nickel

[Ras 0]

Will be letting you know how it comes out. Hopefully can get back to this later. Want to thank all for your assistance thus far. Ras

[Ras 0]

Will be letting you know how it comes out. Hopefully can get back to this later. Want to thank all for your assistance thus far. Ras

 

 

Still a "No Go". Nothing has changed. I've done all that has been suggested. I still can not run CFS3. I GIVE. But if there are any other ideas out there, I would try, otherwise its over

[Von Paulus 8]

Frustrating.

I can't see any reason.

 

Sometimes protections can cause erratic behaviors.

I suppose you've the CFS3 version is not the UBISOFT (DVD) one, right?

You've to have the CD in the drive to play, right?

[Ras 0]

Frustrating.

I can't see any reason.

 

Sometimes protections can cause erratic behaviors.

I suppose you've the CFS3 version is not the UBISOFT (DVD) one, right?

You've to have the CD in the drive to play, right?

 

 

Have the older non DVD version. HAve it in to play, it pops up, that is the first screen that used to allow you to play CFS3 and as soon as it pops up, it disappears. Installation goes fine without a glitch.

[Rugbyfan1972 1]

Ras,

 

I assume you have tried installing BHAH and then playing it, as opposed to trying to play CFS3?

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

[Ras 0]

Ras,

 

I assume you have tried installing BHAH and then playing it, as opposed to trying to play CFS3?

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

 

Ive done that also, thaks. Anything is worth a try

[Rugbyfan1972 1]

Ive done that also, thaks. Anything is worth a try

 

Ras,

 

No problem, although I must admit to a vested interest as I have just ordered a new system running Windows 7 (currently running XP).

 

Another thought, do you have any old games with directx9c on the dvd/cd and if so have you tried installing it from the disc, it is a long shot, as you have probably done this already but I am just spitballing at the moment?

 

If I can get BHAH running on my new system I will post and let you know how I bypassed any problems.

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

[Ras 0]

Ras,

 

No problem, although I must admit to a vested interest as I have just ordered a new system running Windows 7 (currently running XP).

 

Another thought, do you have any old games with directx9c on the dvd/cd and if so have you tried installing it from the disc, it is a long shot, as you have probably done this already but I am just spitballing at the moment?

 

If I can get BHAH running on my new system I will post and let you know how I bypassed any problems.

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

 

 

Hoping you have some luck. I had installed the demo of Wings of Prey which had some Direct X9.0 files on it....but also did as was suggested earlier and downloaded the 9.0C (can't remember what it was called now) file so I have been caught up with all the suggestions. I just hope the p4 is Win7 compatible. If it is not, I won't be able to accept issues such as this. It plainly is NOT TOLERABLE.

[almccoyjr 7]

Hoping you have some luck. I had installed the demo of Wings of Prey which had some Direct X9.0 files on it....but also did as was suggested earlier and downloaded the 9.0C (can't remember what it was called now) file so I have been caught up with all the suggestions. I just hope the p4 is Win7 compatible. If it is not, I won't be able to accept issues such as this. It plainly is NOT TOLERABLE.

Ok. Time for the "nuclear option". Give me a little while to verify all the CFS3 keys in the registry. I've got ETO, PTO, KATS and MAW all loaded so I need to id the proper entries and L.M. tags to delete. Then "we'll" check on the uninstall including Docs and User entries and try this one more time.

 

There ISN'T a problem running CFS3 in W7 and I know you're frustrated reading this from various people. Somewhere along the line, something obvious is being missed and I believe it's during the uninstall and cleanup process. CFS3 is very finicky as to what files must be deleted and what reg entries can stay and be properly overwritten. So lets eliminate them all and do a complete clean install.

 

Starting recon now.

 

plug_nickel

[Von Paulus 8]

Yes Ras I understand your frustration. almccoyjr idea is good.

[Ras 0]

Yes Ras I understand your frustration. almccoyjr idea is good.

 

 

All of you fellows have been great. And you all need to know that if this isn't figured out; that I hope you understand though I am very frustrated; I am also very thankful for those like you that can share their knowledge/

[almccoyjr 7]

Ok Ras, here we go. PLEASE let me know if you have any concerns about going into the registry.

 

1) Uninstall CFS3 using CFS3 CD;

 

> = Go to...

 

> Documents and delete CFS3 folder;

 

The next step depends if your Admin location is primary with a you as secondary or just the opposite. I'm the Admin so my entries are Admin (secondary) then ALMJr which is the primary. Another way to tell is too look for the logo on the folder (outline of head and shoulders). Admin will always be listed first.

 

> C: Users

> Primary

> AppData

> Roaming

> Microsoft and delete CFS3 folder

< Go back to screen with AppData listed first

> My Documents and delete CfS3 folder if showing. You might have two My Docs showing: check both.

 

Uninstall is now clean. Reboot

 

I can't get Notepad to paste here so I'm sending reg entries as a message with explanations.

 

Reboot

 

Reinstall CFS3, do not run.

Patch to 3.1 and reboot.

Use Disc-2 to start and run CFS3. Go to QC and fly around, shoot guns, etc, then quit.

 

You're now ready to install OFF, patches, HiTR and updates.

 

plug_nickel

Edited May 27, 2010 by almccoyjr

[Ras 0]

Ok Ras, here we go. PLEASE let me know if you have any concerns about going into the registry.

 

1) Uninstall CFS3 using CFS3 CD;

 

> = Go to...

 

> Documents and delete CFS3 folder;

 

The next step depends if your Admin location is primary with a you as secondary or just the opposite. I'm the Admin so my entries are Admin (secondary) then ALMJr which is the primary. Another way to tell is too look for the logo on the folder (outline of head and shoulders). Admin will always be listed first.

 

> C: Users

> Primary

> AppData

> Roaming

> Microsoft and delete CFS3 folder

< Go back to screen with AppData listed first

> My Documents and delete CfS3 folder if showing. You might have two My Docs showing: check both.

 

Uninstall is now clean. Reboot

 

I can't get Notepad to paste here so I'm sending reg entries as a message with explanations.

 

Reboot

 

Reinstall CFS3, do not run.

Patch to 3.1 and reboot.

Use Disc-2 to start and run CFS3. Go to QC and fly around, shoot guns, etc, then quit.

 

You're now ready to install OFF, patches, HiTR and updates.

 

plug_nickel

 

Will give it a try. May not be able to get back with results for about 12-15 hours from this post. Keeping fingers crossed. Thank you

[Barkhorn1x 14]

almccoyjr:

 

Can I get a copy of the registry deletions sent to me as well? I suddenly have issues and may need to go the re-install route.

 

Thanks.

[Rugbyfan1972 1]

Ras,

 

Another thought that may help you, I have CFS3 on both CD & DVD, when my new system arrives I will try installing the CD version first and see if that works, if it fails I will then uninstall it and try the same with the DVD version, and then report back.

 

If you need the DVD version it can be found for as little as £10, and is in my opinion a good buy as you do not need the disc in the drive to run it.

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

[Ras 0]

Ras,

 

Another thought that may help you, I have CFS3 on both CD & DVD, when my new system arrives I will try installing the CD version first and see if that works, if it fails I will then uninstall it and try the same with the DVD version, and then report back.

 

If you need the DVD version it can be found for as little as £10, and is in my opinion a good buy as you do not need the disc in the drive to run it.

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

 

 

I may as well give that a try as it did not work. Will give details in subsequent post

[Ras 0]

Will give it a try. May not be able to get back with results for about 12-15 hours from this post. Keeping fingers crossed. Thank you

 

 

Nothing has worked.. Again. But perhpas others will learn. I did all that was suggested. This time I was able to click on the "accept agreement" when I went to play or fly CFS3 briefly. As soon as I clicked on the agreement, the screen disappeard as quickly as it was touched. So for kicks, I decided to try OFF. On the opening screen I got this message:" DX File 1_2, then Run Time Error 444, then Object doesn't support this action.. Still I went into Quick combat and set up a flight. I got the music, the words , "contact" the it continued trying to load for a few seconds with the screen where you see Eddie and the Baron and then it bumped me back to QC. I then left the game. Thats about it fellows. Thanks for the help again. Perhpas I will look for the dvd and see if that would work

[almccoyjr 7]

Nothing has worked.. Again. But perhpas others will learn. I did all that was suggested. This time I was able to click on the "accept agreement" when I went to play or fly CFS3 briefly. As soon as I clicked on the agreement, the screen disappeard as quickly as it was touched. So for kicks, I decided to try OFF. On the opening screen I got this message:" DX File 1_2, then Run Time Error 444, then Object doesn't support this action.. Still I went into Quick combat and set up a flight. I got the music, the words , "contact" the it continued trying to load for a few seconds with the screen where you see Eddie and the Baron and then it bumped me back to QC. I then left the game. Thats about it fellows. Thanks for the help again. Perhpas I will look for the dvd and see if that would work

Ras,

 

Would you please take a look at this site for info on psr.exe and record your uninstalling of CFS3 and send it to me.

 

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/using-problem-steps-recorder-psr-windows-7/

 

plug_nickel

 

I simply can't believe that you're the only one not able to run CFS3 on W7