CoopF4 Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 So I just downloaded the mod that allows you to make the basic Thirdwire F-84F, as included with SF2:E, flyable. Everything seems great except though I made some changes in the data.ini that I wanted implemented, such as the F-84 being able to carry both rocket pods (including the Triple Rocket racks) and the big 450-gallon external tanks that the Streak is known for. First the tanks... On the actual 3D model, the tanks sit low, and visibly off the pylon. How might I move them up to where they attach to the pylon? I started to adjust the pylon attachment positions, but then I realize that other weapons would probably end up getting buried in the pylon 3D model.....so how can I make the tanks attach properly. They are the TANK450_F84F type. As for the rockets (the F-84F triple rocket rack to be precise)....how do I get double the number? I seem to remember a trick that allowed you to carry a full load of six rockets on each pylon, which is what the real F-84F could carry. The Triple Rocket rack obviously only gives you three. Any ideas? Perhaps duplicating the pylon attachment in the data.ini? Any thoughts? Thanks! Quote
+FastCargo Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 For your first question, there are a couple of ways to do it: 1) Change the diameter of the fuel tanks in the individual tank's data.ini. The smaller the diameter, the higher the tank will sit. or 2) Make duplicate data.ini entries for the weapon stations. Then break out one set for weapons only, and the other set for fuel tanks only. As an example: [LeftWingStationFT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.9740,-1.7,-0.035 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1980 DiameterLimit=0.755000 LengthLimit=6.751000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USAF,NATO ModelNodeName=Left_WingPylon RackLimitOutsideOnly=TRUE PylonMass=86.18 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank610_F15 FuelTankNodeName=LeftDropTank [RightWingStationFT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.9740,-1.7,-0.035 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1980 DiameterLimit=0.755000 LengthLimit=6.751000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USAF,NATO ModelNodeName=Right_WingPylon RackLimitOutsideOnly=TRUE PylonMass=86.18 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank610_F15 FuelTankNodeName=RightDropTank [LeftWingStationA2G] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=19 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.9740,-1.7,-0.035 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1225 DiameterLimit=0.280000 LengthLimit=3.600000 AllowedWeaponClass=MER,TER,BOMB AttachmentType=USAF,NATO ModelNodeName=Left_WingPylon RackLimitOutsideOnly=TRUE PylonMass=86.18 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStationA2G] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=20 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.9740,-1.7,-0.035 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1225 DiameterLimit=0.280000 LengthLimit=3.600000 AllowedWeaponClass=MER,TER,BOMB AttachmentType=USAF,NATO ModelNodeName=Right_WingPylon RackLimitOutsideOnly=TRUE PylonMass=86.18 PylonDragArea=0.02 Note these occupy the same position in space, but one can only carry weapons, vs the other can only carry drop tanks. You can adjust the position of the drop tanks without affecting the weapons carry. As far as the rocket racks go, I'd have to see what they look like before I can recommend an adjustment. FC Quote
+Wrench Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 yup, bpao's patened 'duplicated hardpoint trick' . I use it all the time!! Thank you Oli for positions of the rocket racks, i'd look at TMFs T-streak, use those numbers, and adjust accordingly btw, watch for clipping of the flaps into drop tanks on TK model. wrench kevin stein Quote
CoopF4 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Posted July 16, 2010 Thanks for the info. I didn't think of just duplicating the hardpoint. Seems logical to me! As for the TMF's -84F, should I perhaps just go with that one? Is it better quality or roughly equal? A good Thunderstreak is important to me...especially since I have SF2:E. :) Thanks again for the tips! Quote
CoopF4 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Posted July 16, 2010 Hmmm...I tried duplicating the pylons and now the tanks aren't showing up as available at all. I renamed the pylons as follows.... Any thoughts? Perhaps renaming the pylons is what is causing the error? Oh and what does FuelTankNodeName= mean? I have it blank and yet my tanks were showing up until I duplicated the pylons. What does that value do because I have no idea what it would be for the F-84's tanks? Thanks again. // Weapon Stations --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftWingStationFT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.97,-0.07,-0.53 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1360.80 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_L PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=TANK450_F84F FuelTankNodeName= [RightWingStationFT] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.97,-0.07,-0.53 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1360.80 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_R PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=TANK450_F84F FuelTankNodeName= [LeftWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.97,-0.07,-0.53 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1360.80 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_L PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.97,-0.07,-0.53 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1360.80 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,NUC AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_R PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.44,-1.65,-0.48 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=600 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_outer_L PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=TANK200_F84F FuelTankNodeName= [RightWingStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.44,-1.65,-0.48 AttachmentAngles= 0.0,-4.0,0.0 LoadLimit=600 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT AttachmentType=NATO,USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_outer_R PylonMass=63.50 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=TANK200_F84F FuelTankNodeName= Quote
CoopF4 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Posted July 16, 2010 Disregard. I just changed the diameter of the tank. Also figured out a way to use the triple rocket racks and thus I now have an F-84 capable of firing 18 5-inch rockets from the outboard pylons! :) Oh what a little trial & error can do for you. Thanks guys! Quote
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