mdatelmi Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Flying with the OV-10A in WoV I noticed a strange flight attitude...well, for me...maybe it's normal in the "real" plane... During a high bank turn...at any speed and any direction...and during a pull-up the plane always do a roll in the right direction. I'm not a modder or a flight model expert but checking the data.ini I noticed this: ------------------- [LeftWing] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=L_wing ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DestroyedNodeName= DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.107 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=0.0090 CLa=1.277 CD0=0.0029 CDL=0.00015 Cmq=-0.4208 Cmad=-0.1342 Cyb=-0.0240 Clb=-0.0488 Clp=-0.1203 Clr=0.0467 Cnb=-0.0235 Cnp=0.0056 Cnr=-0.0024 CL0MachTableNumData=11 CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.07 CL0MachTableStartX=0.00 CL0MachTableData=0.598,0.630,0.663,0.698,0.735,0.773,0.814,0.857,0.902,0.950,1.000 CLaMachTableNumData=11 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.07 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.598,0.630,0.663,0.698,0.735,0.773,0.814,0.857,0.902,0.950,1.000 CD0MachTableNumData=4 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.20 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=0.500,0.700,0.900,1.000 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=56.000,48.000,40.000,32.000,24.000,16.000,8.000,1.000,8.000,16.000,24.000,32.000,40.000,48.000,56.000 CmqMachTableNumData=4 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.20 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.865,0.910,0.955,1.000 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=-0.206,-0.203,-0.200,-0.360,-0.520,-0.680,-0.840,1.000,0.840,0.680,0.520,0.360,0.200,0.203,0.206 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=0.279,0.252,0.225,0.380,0.535,0.690,0.845,1.000,0.845,0.690,0.535,0.380,0.225,0.252,0.279 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-0.200,-0.200,-0.200,-0.360,-0.520,-0.680,-0.840,1.000,0.840,0.680,0.520,0.360,0.200,0.200,0.200 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-16.542,-11.824,-8.264,-5.607,-3.635,-2.157,-1.000,0.000,1.000,2.157,3.635,5.607,8.264,11.824,16.542 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=0.416,0.408,0.400,0.520,0.640,0.760,0.880,1.000,0.880,0.760,0.640,0.520,0.400,0.408,0.416 XacMachTableNumData=4 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.20 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=0.026,0.028,0.031,0.034 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=1.1812 AlphaStall=18.761 AlphaMax=21.45 AlphaDepart=23.32 StallMoment=0.05 PostStallCma=-0.5 StallHysteresis=0.1 PostStallZeroLiftAlpha=91.0 Ymac=-1.06 CollisionPoint[001]= CollisionPoint[002]= SystemName[001]=LeftFlapinside SystemName[002]=LeftFlapoutside SystemName[003]=SidewinderStation2 SystemName[004]=LeftAileron SystemName[005]=LeftWingFuelCell1 SystemName[006]=LeftWingFuelCell2 SystemName[007]=SPOILER1 SystemName[008]=SPOILER2 SystemName[009]=SPOILER3 SystemName[010]=SPOILER4 SystemName[011]=LeftPositionLight [RightWing] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=R_wing DestroyedNodeName= ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.107 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=0.001 CLa=1.0 CD0=0.0010 CDL=0.0010 Cmq=-0.4356 Cmad=0.0121 Cyb=-0.0205 Clb=-0.0906 Clp=-0.0583 Clr=0.0152 Cnb=-0.1262 Cnp=0.0020 Cnr=-0.0038 CLaMachTableNumData=4 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=0.993,1.000,1.022,1.096 CD0MachTableNumData=4 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.790,1.000,1.046,16.093 CDLAlphaTableNumData=15 CDLAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CDLAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CDLAlphaTableData=49.000,36.000,25.000,16.000,9.000,4.000,1.000,0.000,1.000,4.000,9.000,16.000,25.000,36.000,49.000 CmqMachTableNumData=4 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.865,1.000,1.918,-4.332 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=-1.300,-1.012,-0.725,-0.437,-0.150,0.138,0.425,0.713,1.000,1.287,1.575,1.862,2.150,2.437,2.725 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=1.808,1.589,1.404,1.252,1.135,1.050,1.000,0.983,1.000,1.050,1.135,1.252,1.404,1.589,1.808 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-7.000,-6.000,-5.000,-4.000,-3.000,-2.000,-1.000,0.000,1.000,2.000,3.000,4.000,5.000,6.000,7.000 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-16.542,-11.824,-8.264,-5.607,-3.635,-2.157,-1.000,0.000,1.000,2.157,3.635,5.607,8.264,11.824,16.542 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=40.808,30.026,20.904,13.440,7.635,3.488,1.000,0.171,1.000,3.488,7.635,13.440,20.904,30.026,40.808 XacMachTableNumData=4 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=0.426,0.434,0.496,-0.048 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.3501 AlphaStall=34.58 AlphaMax=42.53 AlphaDepart=49.40 Ymac=0.09 MaxExtentPosition= MinExtentPosition= CollisionPoint[001]= CollisionPoint[002]= SystemName[001]=RightFlapinside SystemName[002]=RightFlapoutside SystemName[003]=SidewinderStation1 SystemName[004]=RightAileron SystemName[005]=RightWingFuelCell1 SystemName[006]=RightWingFuelCell2 SystemName[007]=SPOILER5 SystemName[008]=SPOILER6 SystemName[009]=SPOILER7 SystemName[010]=SPOILER8 SystemName[011]=RightPositionLight ------------------- The wings value aren't equal...I checked in other planes and here the wings seems equal. My questions: - It's the OV-10 data.ini ok or is corrupted/wrong? - if wrong which wing values are the right ones? Thanks in advance for yours suggestions! Edited August 19, 2010 by mdatelmi Quote
Fubar512 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Yes, values on one side should mirror those on the other, and, that FM is not SF2 friendly. Try mirroring the first set, keeping in mind that the stall values are somewhat optimistic, and that the Ymac for a left side surface is always expressed as a negative value, while that for the right surface is always a positive value (think of X,Y,Z coords, and you'll understand). Quote
mdatelmi Posted August 19, 2010 Author Posted August 19, 2010 Thanks Fubar! I will try...and...I noticed that I posted my request in the SF2 section...my fault...sorry! Quote
mdatelmi Posted August 29, 2010 Author Posted August 29, 2010 Sorted out... Duplicated the last set on the first...and work. With the first on the second one the roll is increased... Thanks again Fubar! Quote
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