tranquillo 10 Posted August 25, 2010 This may seem a silly question but I've tried all sorts. Although I've tried many different aircraft since I got OFF, I keep coming back to my favourite, the SE5. After all this time I'm still unable to operate the Lewis gun. Is this possible?. I've tried selecting next weapon but just get "ordinance not available. The keys for loading the top gun work but once loaded I can't use it. Up 'till now I've managed without it but would like now to explore its possibilities. Am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rugbyfan1972 1 Posted August 25, 2010 This may seem a silly question but I've tried all sorts. Although I've tried many different aircraft since I got OFF, I keep coming back to my favourite, the SE5. After all this time I'm still unable to operate the Lewis gun. Is this possible?. I've tried selecting next weapon but just get "ordinance not available. The keys for loading the top gun work but once loaded I can't use it. Up 'till now I've managed without it but would like now to explore its possibilities. Am I missing something? Tranquillo, Because of the limitations of CFS3 when you pull the trigger to fire the guns, all of the guns are fired at the same time, if you listen when you fire the guns on the SE5 or SE5A and then fly anoother british aircraft (sopwith camel for instance) and fire the guns on that you will notice that the sound is different. This is because the devs have on the SE5 or SE5A modelled the sound of both the vickers and lewis guns being fired simultaneously. Because of the aforementioned CFS3 limitations it is not possible to "pull" the lewis gun down the foster mounting and fire upwards with it or to reload it. I hope this was a sitisfactory explanation. Thanks Rugbyfan1972 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tranquillo 10 Posted August 25, 2010 Tranquillo, Because of the limitations of CFS3 when you pull the trigger to fire the guns, all of the guns are fired at the same time, if you listen when you fire the guns on the SE5 or SE5A and then fly anoother british aircraft (sopwith camel for instance) and fire the guns on that you will notice that the sound is different. This is because the devs have on the SE5 or SE5A modelled the sound of both the vickers and lewis guns being fired simultaneously. Because of the aforementioned CFS3 limitations it is not possible to "pull" the lewis gun down the foster mounting and fire upwards with it or to reload it. I hope this was a sitisfactory explanation. Thanks Rugbyfan1972 That was a more than satisfactory explanation. Thank you. I'll buy you a beer in the mess next time you're there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tranquillo 10 Posted August 25, 2010 There IS a method to fire the guns independantly, but it's not used in OFF, it's an unused CFS3 command Fire all guns = Spacebar Fire only Machine Guns = Shift+Spacebar Fire only Cannons = Control+Spacebar Which is which . . Got Me ??? Only use I can forsee, would be having one gun mechanicaly out of action. You'd still have the other . . .Theoretically anyway Cannons............now there's an idea:minigun::minigun: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Beard 14 Posted August 26, 2010 If'n I remember correctly from my initial install of OFF1 the way the guns worked on the SE5 (before I reset it to fire all) was the trigger fired the Vickers and another button on the joystick fired the Lewis. I have been tempted at times to go back to this, to use the guns independently and conserve ammunition. Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GHunter 0 Posted August 26, 2010 Didn't the SPAD 13 have a modification with a cannon through the prop shaft? I read somewhere about cannons mounted I think in DH4's rigged to fire upwards in an attempt to shoot zepplins................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tranquillo 10 Posted August 26, 2010 If'n I remember correctly from my initial install of OFF1 the way the guns worked on the SE5 (before I reset it to fire all) was the trigger fired the Vickers and another button on the joystick fired the Lewis. I have been tempted at times to go back to this, to use the guns independently and conserve ammunition. Beard That sounds like a plan, Beard. I might give that a go. Do you think that's still an option in P3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vasco 3 Posted August 27, 2010 Even if it is, you're losing the destructive power of an SE5, in order that theoreticaly you'll have more bullets to bring too your own funeral. That why it was used for so-many kills, the twin guns make a rather powerful impacts on the Target Your loadout is rather easily stretched to five targets. Provided you Know how to shoot If you miss with two guns, what makes you think you'll hit with one ? Uncleal, I think it's more a case of conserving the limited ammunition and bringing the Lewis to bear once the Vickers starts scoring hits. Like cannon-armed fighters really, you don't fire the cannons until you see the strikes from the machine guns. Vasco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tranquillo 10 Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) I just thought it'd be a great way to attack those pesky 2 seaters - from underneath. They'd have to wear tin hats on their backsides. Edited August 27, 2010 by tranquillo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Beard 14 Posted August 27, 2010 I've never tried to fire the Lewis when it is in the reload position, wonder if you can? Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
