Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted August 12, 2011 Stimulated by Bletchley's 1915 weather mod, I've been knocking around in the OFF weather files and noticed that there is a gap for the period from May 18, 1917 to June 18, 1917. (I think someone accidentally punched a "6" instead of a "5"). The result is we get the same weather conditions for a whole month during that time. Since the weather file also partially controls the level of air activity, we also get the same amount of air activity for that whole period. Therefore, I was wondering if anyone might have any information about the weather during that period? I know that the summer of 1917 was supposed to have been unusually wet, but beyond that I have no information. I believe that A.L. Gould's "No Parachute" is a contemporary account that covers that period--are there any other sources of information that might have daily weather information that can be shared? I also think the battle of Messine's Ridge took place during that time. A description of the battle might also mention the weather conditions. I hope to take the information and put together a weather mod for 1916 -- 1918 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted August 13, 2011 Thanks for spotting it HPW. It may not be neceesary to redo all the research again, maybe Shred or WM already has the correct file somewhere so we can look maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted August 14, 2011 I am pleased that I was able to find this very small error and point it out. I'll do almost anything to help and/or promote the great work you guys have already done on this sim. Proof reading you own work is one of the most difficult things for both writers and game developers to do, I imagine. Sometimes a fresh eye can spot things that the more jaded (or should I say experienced ) may miss. Regarding the weather during this period, I was able to find an account from a Canadian soldier who wrote brief notes back to his family virtually every day from this period--including frequent comments on the weather. Here is the website: http://www.kingandempire.com/becker2.html I've incorporated this information into a revised OFFHistoricalWeather1917.txt if you are interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pips 5 Posted August 14, 2011 Here's the weather for the period in question. It's from the diary of No 5 Squadron RFC, which was based at Petite Synthe, Belgium. 18 May, 1917. Extremely windy (from the west), with gusts up to Force 7 and almost out of control below 4,000ft. Above 6,000ft the wind was strong but steady though one almost stood still against when flying into it. 19 May Same, with heavy low clouds. 20 May Thick clouds at 6,000ft. Wind westing at Force 4. 21 May Heavy rain, low clouds. Visibility less than 1/2 mile. 22 May Storms with strong west wind. Ceiling zero. 23 May Force 6 winds, cloud level 200ft. Intermittent showers. 24 May Wind howling, slashing rain almost horizontal. Mess shaking. 25 May Clear skies up to 10,000ft. Scattered above. Slight westing wind, visibility 15-20 miles. 26 May Opposite of yesterday. Thick clouds, strong west wind, ceiling 1,000ft. tried climbing above but aborted after reaching 17,000ft with no breaks in the cloud. 27 May Very warm and thick haze. Visibility less than 2 miles. Strong Force 5 west wind. 28 May Visibility good despite much cumulus at 10,000ft and above. Wind Force 4. 30 May Dud day with heavy clouds at 1,000ft. 31 May A fine clear morning but with a very strong west wind. At 1.00pm a heavy clud layer blew in from the sea, visibility dropping to less than 1 mile. 1 June Strong west wind, broken clouds all the way up to 16,000ft. Clear above. 2 June Wind eased overnight, but heavy clouds throught the day. 3 June Strong west wind, fluffy broken cloud. 4 June Visibility very good, being able to see the coast 30 miles to the north. Slight west wind. 5 June High scattered clouds, mild wind. 6 June Gusty winds from the north and heavy showers. 7 June Beautiful day, not a cloud in the sky. Wind just a gentle breeze. 8 June Hazy all morning with rain after tea. 9 June Big cloud banks at 14,000ft, very hazy. Visibility less than 5 miles. 10 June Very hot and hazy day, no wind at all. 11 June Another hot roasting day. Visibility less than 1 mile, solid haze obscuring ground from 1,000ft. 12 June Hot oppressive day, hazy. Not a breath of wind. 13 June Very hot, extremely thick weather. 14 June Still hot and oppressive, but a coolng breeze from midday. Very clear evening. 15 June Westing wind, hazy with broken clouds. Visibility 5 miles. 16 June Extremely hot - 105 degrees. Very thick haze and from 6,000ft solid cloud cover over all of Belgium. 17 June Heat intense all day - 110 degrees. Thick haze, visibility poor. 18 June A very grilling morning, hotter than ever. A terrific storm blew up in the afternoon, the wind rising to hurricane fury. It passed quickly. Another big storm at 11pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks guys - sure send it over HPW and I'll discuss with WM. Don't forget it would take a fair few collated reports as of course weather can vary across even small regions in a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Thank you, Pips. Most of your data correlates with the info I have--perhaps a little more cloudy and stormy up there on the coast than what my guy reported. My "guy" was apparently at Le Havre, Arras, and Vimy Ridge during this time. If anyone else has some good sources, I am still eager to here it. Again, "No Parachute" may have some info about weather on the days that he flew, but my local library does not have a copy. Pol -- I will send you the file soon. I made both a Quiet and Active Sector version, where the weather is the same (some slight variation in cloud condition), but the flight frequency/activity is different from your original file. Or, I can just paste the new dates into the existing OFF file. Which do you prefer? Edited August 15, 2011 by Herr Prop-Wasche Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted August 15, 2011 Not my area so not sure, if it's not tricky send both ways maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredward 12 Posted August 17, 2011 I'll take a look at our current weather file when I get home (be a few days). Cheers, the Shredder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted August 17, 2011 I forgot to bring the file with me on my thumbdrive to upload, but I should have it later today or tomorrow. Along with the 1917 weather file, I also noticed a few very minor errors in the 1915 and 1918 weather files (repeated or missing dates, etc.). I can send you corrected versions of those files, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Here are the files with my corrections added: CorrectedOFFHistoricalWeather1915.txt 1915 Line 231 Changed 2-10-1915 to 1-10-1915 CorrectedOFFHistoricalWeather1917.txt 1917 1) Deleted lines 339 to 350 (28-3-1917 to 1-4-1917) so 28-3-1917 to 30-3-1917 could be read 2) Deleted text: 18 5 1917 18 6 1917 . . . EOR 3) Added additional text to cover period from 18-5-1917 to 18-6-1917 CorrectedOFFHistoricalWeather1918.txt 1918 1) Duplication of 2-1-1918 removed 2) Duplication of 24-4-1918 through 28-4-1918 removed 3) Duplication of 4-7-1918 removed 4) Changed 9-8-1918 to 9-9-1918 to replace missing date of 9-9-1918 5) Duplication of 1-11-1918 that appears after 2-11-1918 to 3-11-1918 removed I also changed the array reference at the top of each file with the correct number of records due to these changes. If anyone wants to use these files, simply back up your old "OFFHistoricalWeather19xx.txt" files, copy my files into your Over Flanders Fields\campaigns\CampaignData\Weather folder, and remove the "Corrected' from the name of the files. Edited August 17, 2011 by Herr Prop-Wasche Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted August 18, 2011 Great thanks HPW, Shred will be able to grab the fixes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites