+Dave Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Does anyone know why I can not make a other ships show along with my carrier in the mission editor? I set up a whole carrier battle group and only the carrier shows. Any ideas? Quote
+CrazyhorseB34 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Check START BEFORE and set it for like 25 or 30 minutes. Quote
+JimBeamer5 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Should work fine. Just did a quick group after a couple of minutes. As Crazyhorse says, check the START BEFORE. I always set it to the maximum 59 minutes. The other ships won't show if the mission objective TOT is longer than the time listed in START BEFORE IIRC. You probably know all this already, if so I've got no idea why they won't show. Maybe post your mission data file? BTW my shot made under NOV 11 patch using most Current Iceland full scale terrain. Quote
+Dave Posted January 6, 2012 Author Posted January 6, 2012 That did the trick. Thank you fellas. Quote
+Dave Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Ok how come I can not get them to go the same way as the carrier? I set them all at the same speed and same direction but when I start they are heading parallel to the carrier. Quote
+Dave Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Here is what my test mission looks like [MissionHeader] AircraftType=F-14A_82 MissionMap=ICELAND02 MissionType=SWEEP StartTime=12:22:38 StartDate=01/27/1986 NavalMission=TRUE [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=2 EnemyAirActivity=1 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=2 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2 PlayerMissionID=2 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=1159 GeneratedMission=FALSE AdjustStartPosition=TRUE AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE CreateStaticAircraft=TRUE CreateHelpFlight=FALSE [Weather] WeatherType=BROKEN WeatherAlt=4572.000000 WeatherThickness=91.440002 HasHighLayer=FALSE FogAmount=0.000000 ContrailAlt=9753.600586 StartWindDirection=345.000031 StartWindSpeed=2.572220 WindGustingAmount=2.057776 [AircraftMission001] Name=A002 AircraftType=Mig-29A Size=3 Alignment=ENEMY RandomChance=100 MissionType=CAP TargetArea=Höfn ObjectiveID=2 RatingForSuccess=50 StartOnGround=TRUE CarrierBased=FALSE Position=1126200.000000,846500.000000,0.000000 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+PureBlue Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Dave it's because the Carrier turns into the wind at mission start. For example set all the ships sailing 90deg. East. And set the Wind Direction E (yes it's backword in SF) What I do is first make a rough design in ME, Save. Open the file in Notepad and edit in the ships, their starting locations and waypoints. Then go back to ME, insert the flights & their waypoints / targets. Save. Go back to Notepad one last time to set all ships Startime=0 (and also other flights if you want them to take off from a adjacent carrier) Then this becomes a template for multiple different mission designs involving carrier groups.. Some examples, note they include various mods. One can edit out unwanted stuff. Missions.rar Tip: I think the Carriers' speeds will be inserted automatically by ME from the objects data.ini. I edit these to get all ships going at similar pace. [MovementSystem] MaxRoadSpeed=15 MaxOffRoadSpeed=15 Quote
+PureBlue Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Dave, set StartWindDirection=90. And for a better ship formation enter the coordinates by hand Quote
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