Gr.Viper Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Just like two years ago (and like the US this year) we're having a massive wildfire surge http://www.rt.com/news/prime-time/wildfires-russia-greenpeace-predictions-113/ As the report says, so far the casualties were 8 dead out of 13 firefighters paradropped into a forest. NASA is busy taking pictures http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=78305 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=78515 And, man, does this smoke go places: Smoke lingering over much of British Columbia from Siberian wildfires has pushed ozone levels in parts of the province to never-before-seen numbers. Smoke from dozens of forest fires in Siberia has been responsible for spectacular red sunrises and sunsets on the northwest coat of the United States and Canada's British Columbia, MSNBC.com reported on Wednesday. Edited July 28, 2012 by Gr.Viper Quote
Lazarus1177 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 These fires must be too big to be put out using small aircraft.R.I.P to the firemen .Doesn't the USAF have C-130s modified for fire fighting? Quote
RogerSmith Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 why would you paradrop firefighters in the forest? How can 9 people outperform a couple of firefighting vehicles? Quote
jeanba Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 why would you paradrop firefighters in the forest? How can 9 people outperform a couple of firefighting vehicles? It is not a matter of "outperforming" but of "doing another job" (such as observation). Quote
Gr.Viper Posted July 28, 2012 Author Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) The problem with using aircraft in those areas is that they have to take off off the airfields covered with smoke veil, or grab water from rivers and lakes covered in steam or smoke. Oh, and I got the numbers wrong. 8 killed out of 13. Here's an article about smokejumpers http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/natural-disasters/russian-smokejumpers/ Edited July 28, 2012 by Gr.Viper Quote
Lazarus1177 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 why would you paradrop firefighters in the forest? How can 9 people outperform a couple of firefighting vehicles? Firefighters are airdropped to look for people trapped in the area.Think of it as SAR(Search and Rescue). Quote
Gr.Viper Posted July 28, 2012 Author Posted July 28, 2012 Firefighters are airdropped to look for people trapped in the area.Think of it as SAR(Search and Rescue). Mostly (at least here) they're inserted to combat small fires before they develop in the areas, which would take hours to reach using trucks and dozers. Also, if you're going to drive a bulldozer through a healthy forest, you might as well let it burn. Quote
UK_Widowmaker Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 They should use airport fire trucks...they can outperform anything Quote
Lazarus1177 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Mostly (at least here) they're inserted to combat small fires before they develop in the areas, which would take hours to reach using trucks and dozers. Also, if you're going to drive a bulldozer through a healthy forest, you might as well let it burn. Agreed.But,letting the forest burn could greatly harm the atmospheric environment.Also,air travel around the area may be affected. Quote
Lt. James Cater Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Where i'm at now was evacuated a few years ago due to a fire and when i was a Zion 10 years ago a sizable fire was so close we had to sleep in our clothes and with escape kits ready. Heading off to work in the morning was like walking through a thick fog. The thing of some of these locations is that a fire at certain points can cut you off from anything other than pretty hairy trails that might have to be taken at a run and in the dark. Quote
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