Erwin_Hans Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) I read some memoirs by old PLAAF pilots these days.Most of them about KAW.I found some intresting stuff here 1 Camoflag for MiG-15. Camoflag was used in early battels in Korean.In the begainning,VVS worried about "Friend fire"form ground A-A weapons.(For MiG-15 and F-86 are similar) This is why MiG-15 have camoflag 2 Mission allocation In 7.9.1952,red united force had a meeting about mission allocation VVS:3 IADs (9 IAPs) ---7 IAPs in frontal,main target:F-86,took bad weather missions and night missions KPAF:1 IAD (2 IAPs) ---1 group(Sq?) in frontal,main mission :guerrilla.(check bad Charile?) KPAF also have some Yak-9 for Frontal battels????? AFAIK NK have no MiG-15 IIRC in KAW???? We need Po-2 and Yak-18 for check bed Charile !!! ( We got CJ-6 but that is not full copy) PLAAF:FADs (12 FARs)---8 FARs in frontal,main target:bombers and attackers. First night training for PLAAF was in 8.6.1952/4th FAD.This tells us,if you met any MiG-15 in night mission,that must be VVS. We could set 2 kinds of MiG-15 in date.ini One should be MiG-15VVS (Set AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT)and one should be MiG-15PLAAF(Set AircraftCapability=DAY_ONLY) Most combat happend over 7KM,because 7KM+ was for airforce and 7KM- was for AA guns 3 MiG-15Bis and KAW MiG-15Bis first introduced into PLAAF in 1952. between 8.23~10.17 1952, 348 MiG-15Bis delivered to PLAAF.134 more bewteen 5~10 1953.Most likely all FADs upgraded MiG-15bis before end of war. 4 Time line of PLAAF divisions join battle. 1951.1.21 ~1951.1.30 4th FAD first time 1951.9.12~1952.4 4th FAD second time 1951.10.20~1952.1.14 3th FAD first time and 22th FAR??? (Tu-2) 1952.7+ 7FADs :time line: 2nd FAD,14th FAD,6th FAD,12th FAD,15th FAD,16th FAD,17th FAD,18th FAD All of time fly MiG-15 except 4th FAD LA-11 Some US claimed they shot down LA-9,but there are no La-9 in PLAAF,that is La-11 5 Pilot training VVS 2 IADs in first batch are well trained The other IADs in other batchs are normal trained Most PLAAF FADs are very bad trained ----about 10 hours fly experience,no air combat trained in 1951. Looks most KPA pilots trained by VVS before war. 6 NK ACE pilots Maybe too much claimed???? Edited April 23, 2013 by Erwin_Hans Quote
+Gepard Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Camoflage was used for the MiG-15 from mid 1952. The early period the MiG-15 were silver and had had red fast ID markings (red nose, red rudders etc). All MiG-15s (soviet and chinese) had northkorean insignias. The normal soviet MiG-15 units were day only active. But there was one unit which was specilized for night operations. This regiment used the La-11 in the first time and later the MiG-15bis. The change from La to MiG happend in late 1952, or so. The number of operational soviet MiG-15 units was very different. It started with one division (62 planes) and rised later to 3 divisions. It depended on available airfields. Quote
regula50 Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) In addendum to Gepard´s informations, in the whole Korean war all MiG-15s were based in Manchurie(China)airfields with only a very short exception: The first week of Nov 1951, the first North Korean regiment, the 447th start to operated from Uiju, in North Korea. The regiment used ex old MiG-15(RD-45F engines) from the 176th GvIAP and 196th IAP taked in charge on Oct 1951. After straffing by F-86s and strike by B-29s, all MiGs were rellocated to Antung by Nov 20, 1951. That was the only time of utilisation of a airfield in North Korean territory. The grass Rwy at Sinuiju airstrip was used very rarely and only for emergency refuelling by the MiGs. At the begining(Nov 1, 1950)Antung was still under construction and the MiGs operated from Anshan. The 29th GvIAP inagurated Antung as base on Dec 4, 1950. The date already coincide with all MiG operating only under North Korean Insignias(Including PLAAF)and the combat debut of the MiG-15bis. Insignias were not carried upperwing. By May 28, 1951 is inagurated the second base: Tatung-kao(Manpo or Myaogou for the Soviets). This base was very near of the sea and had a capacity max for four regiments, in general three V-VS and one PLAAF. The other main base(and the best equipped)was Fencheng(Dapu or Dabao for the Soviets). By Aug-Sep 1952 with the proliferations of Sabres waiting for MiGs in take off or landing for attack, Fencheng was the home of the cover and protection MiGs for the others airfields. Edited July 15, 2013 by regula50 Quote
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