jeanba Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Hello Phimat is only a contraction of Philipps / Matra. As such there are a lot of variants of the Phimat, and its content : I know that for the Super-Etendard, the phimat contained chaffs, it is likely the same thing for the jaguar (from what I udnerstood, the "full" version was too heavy). For the Mirage IVP, it was a combination of flares and chaffs. I don't really know for the Mirage III and 5F. For Mirages F1, I think it was both. For most British and German planes, it was both. All those information being subject to corrections. So I think we need for the 2 or even 3 variants : - 60 chaffs - 120 chaffs - mix Nato5 uses the combination, the Mirage III from Deoliveiraand team use 60 chaffs, they should be differentiated. Thank you in advance Quote
Centurion-1 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, I think we need a new pack of French ECM pods, including the different Phimats but also jammers like Remora, Barracuda et cetera.. I have already started to collect some refs but more are welcome! It is on my to-do list, relating to the Mirage F.1 pack.. Quote
+Crusader Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Phimat was a Chaff-only dispenser. The chaff was stored inside in several tubes. Over the time I've read several numbers but the most common and from a good source was 210 chaff packets. Weight with full load is 105 kg. A similar dispenser pod is the Sycomor It was used by many foreign Mirage F1 users. Sycomor has 3 tubes for chaff at the rear and the forward part holds 7 dispensers with 4 cartridges each which are used for flares. Lenght of the pod is 2.95 m Its advantage is the ability to load both chaff and flares. Quote
jeanba Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 There seem to have been a lot of Phimat variants : just like there are a lot of "Ford Cars". At least for the Mirage IV, I am 99% sure there is a mix. Quote
+Crusader Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 The Mirage IV used a BOZ pod which has both chaff/flares + the integral dispenser system in the rear fuselage bottom. Early on it was Phimat for chaff and the integral system for flares. There might be another Phimat version ... I never saw any info about it though ... so who knows. Quote
jeanba Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Yes, this is what I came to think when reading various sources Quote
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