Becker02 34 Posted May 12, 2021 Hallo all, Does anybody know the development of safety belts for pilots in WW1? How long have they had no belts? When were there the first belly-belts? And when with shoulder-belts? Thanks and Greetings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Trotski 936 Posted May 12, 2021 lap belts were in use from pre war, , the germans I believe were the first to have a full 4 point harness, the certainly had them on Albatros DVI, even some eindeckers had them fitted too, However the French may have been the first to have a full 4 point system. But I am not 100% sure on that, as it is a question that has never crossed my mind to be honest, an interesting one though . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+epower 23 Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) In 1917, Oliver Manners Sutton of No 54 Sqn. RFC invented the Harness which bears his name and became standard issue for the next 30+ years. Annoyingly, Sutton Harness does not have a Wikipedia page but if you google it you'll see numerous sites which detail the construction. The three key features being shoulder and hip belts The single D pin release a single rear attach point allowing side to side movement by the pilot There's one at this link. It's the WW2 variant but the design didn't change much between the wars. https://www.historicflyingclothing.com/en-GB/raf-aircraft-parts/raf-aircraft-sutton-harness/prod_10252 Edited May 13, 2021 by epower 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TROOPER117 146 Posted May 14, 2021 Ah, the Sutton harness... used to wear one in my Spit old boy! (hic!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Becker02 34 Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Thanks for info @trotski, @epower! You can see at this link a movie with a pilot (MvR), when he got into the DR.1. And you can see the shoulder-belts (3.08 - 3.25): almost OT - SimHQ Forums. Maybe other members have further informations. Greetings! Edited May 14, 2021 by Becker04 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
