KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Posted April 1, 2024 (edited) Happy Easter, everyone! Like many of us, I'm a huge fan of the Phantom II (I was even lucky enough to sit in one as a kid at Ohakea Air Base, many decades ago), and I also enjoy the Banshee and Demon for the historical McDonnell lineage. The Demon Ultimate packs by Champions VA56 are a real blast! Sources claim that the definitive F3H-2 strike fighter variant retained the air intercept missile capability of the previous F3H-2N (AIM-9) and F3H-2M (AIM-7) in addition to six underwing pylons for bombs, rockets and special stores. https://www.airvectors.net/avf4_1.html#m1 https://web.archive.org/web/20090102063045/http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f3_3.html The SF2 version of the F3H-2 models the six underwing stores using a technique similar to the 'fake pilot' method, and the player chooses between an air-to-air or air-to-ground data ini configuration. I wanted to see if I could model the multi-role strike fighter capability of the real aircraft. I'm pretty stoked with the results so wanted to share here. I found a pretty decent solution was to convert the wing pylons into fake (and non-functional) 'EP stores' selectable in the loading menu: Edited April 1, 2024 by KiwiBiggles 1 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 (edited) Here's the ini code for the conversion: F3H-2_DATA [MissionData] NationName=USN ServiceStartYear=1957 ServiceEndYear=1964 AircraftRole=FIGHTER AircraftCapability=DAY_AND_NIGHT Availability=COMMON Exported=FALSE PrimaryRoles=INTERCEPT,ARMED_RECON,STRIKE,CAS,SEAD,ANTI_SHIP SecondaryRoles=RECON NormalMissionRadius=800 MaxMissionRadius=950 Ceiling=13000 MinBaseSize=MEDIUM CarrierBased=TRUE // Weapon Stations --------------------------------------------------------- //---------------------------Right Wing Stations------------------------------- // R_OuterPylon [STA_1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.75,-1.2,-0.655 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 // R_MiddlePylon [STA_2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.0,-0.365,-0.67 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 // R_InnerPylon [STA_3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.25,0.49,-0.675 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 //---------------------------Left Wing Stations------------------------------- // L_InnerPylon [STA_6] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.25,0.49,-0.675 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 // L_MiddlePylon [STA_7] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.0,-0.365,-0.67 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 // L_OuterPylon [STA_8] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.75,-1.2,-0.655 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=80.0 PylonDragArea=0.04 //---------------------------Fuselage Stations------------------------------- [STA_4] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.6920,-0.8025,-1.1000 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=910 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=Left_Fuse_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.05 MinExtentPosition=-0.6510,0.4414,-0.6552 MaxExtentPosition=-0.7333,-1.9911,-1.1226 FuelTankName=F3_262gal [STA_5] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.6920,-0.8025,-1.1000 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=910 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB AttachmentType=USN ModelNodeName=Right_Fuse_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.05 MinExtentPosition=0.6510,0.4414,-0.6552 MaxExtentPosition=0.7333,-1.9911,-1.1226 FuelTankName=F3_262gal //--------------------------AIM-7/AIM-9---------------------------------------- [LeftOuterPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.3430,0.2952,-0.8934 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=Left_Inner_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightOuterPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.3430,0.2952,-0.8934 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=Right_Inner_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftInnerPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.7730,-1.1815,-0.8757 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=Left_Outer_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightInnerPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.7730,-1.1815,-0.8757 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=Right_Outer_Pylon PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 //-------Ordanance Pylons(Air to Ground) [L_InnerPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.25,0.29,-0.478 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonL AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 [R_InnerPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.25,0.29,-0.478 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonR AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 [L_MiddlePylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.0,-0.565,-0.470 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonL AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 [R_MiddlePylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=16 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.0,-0.565,-0.470 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonR AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 [L_OuterPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=17 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.75,-1.4,-0.455 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonL AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 [R_OuterPylon] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=18 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.75,-1.4,-0.455 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,2.5 LoadLimit=227.7 AllowedWeaponClass=EP SpecificStationCode=F3H-2_PylonR AttachmentType=USN PylonMass=0.00 PylonDragArea=0.00 Edited April 1, 2024 by KiwiBiggles 2 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 (edited) F3H-2_LOADOUT // Station 1 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 2 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 3 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 4 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 5 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 6 = Bombs, Rocket Pods // Station 7 = Drop Tanks, Bombs // Station 8 = Drop Tanks, Bombs // Station 9 = AIM-7/AIM-9 // Station 10 = AIM-7/AIM-9 // Station 11 = AIM-7/AIM-9 // Station 12 = AIM-7/AIM-9 // Station 13 = Left Pylon // Station 14 = Right Pylon // Station 15 = Left Pylon // Station 16 = Right Pylon // Station 17 = Left Pylon // Station 18 = Right Pylon [AirToAir] Loadout[09].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[09].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=AIM-9B Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [AirToAir_1959] StartDefaultDate=1959 DefaultFor=INTERCEPT Loadout[09].WeaponType=AIM-7C Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-7C Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-7C Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=AIM-7C Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 [AirToAir_1960] StartDefaultDate=1960 DefaultFor=INTERCEPT Loadout[09].WeaponType=AIM-7D Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-7D Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-7D Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=AIM-7D Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 STRIKE Loadout[01].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=MK82 Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[15].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[17].Quantity=1 Loadout[18].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[18].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[15].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2L Loadout[17].Quantity=1 Loadout[18].WeaponType=Pylon_F3H-2R Loadout[18].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[07].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=F3_262gal Loadout[08].Quantity=1 I'm pretty sure that's everything, and I'll attach the converted pylons to the next post. I've chosen not to include HVARs, because I don't feel they suit the pylon model, and I'll return to this mod to fit out the special store later, but of course, you can play around with it to suit your own preferences. I also took some time to tighen up the pylon positioning, and it all looks pretty good to my eyes. 👍 Champion's Demon really is a fun and interesting plane to fly, whether on strike missions or fleet intercepts, needing careful management of energy and the afterburner to get the job done, unlike its brawny younger sibling, and just like the real thing. I hope someone else will enjoy this, too. Thank you to the modding community for the hours of interesting and informative R&R you bring to us all. Best, KB Edited April 1, 2024 by KiwiBiggles 1 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 Left Pylons T-28_PylonL.bmp Pylon_F3H-2L.INI Pylon_F3H-2L.LOD Pylon_F3H-2L_data.INI 1 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 Right Pylons Pylon_F3H-2R.INI Pylon_F3H-2R.LOD Pylon_F3H-2R_data.INI T-28_PylonR.bmp 1 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 Sorry about the strikethrough text; not sure why that happens. 🙂 Quote
KiwiBiggles Posted April 1, 2024 Author Posted April 1, 2024 (edited) 😆 Ok.... figured out that "STRIKE" in the loadout ini (with the square brackets) is also the command for strikethrough text in this bulletin board format. If you're making your own loadout ini just remember to put the brackets back. 👍 Edited April 1, 2024 by KiwiBiggles Quote
+Wrench Posted April 1, 2024 Posted April 1, 2024 yeah, the board software does that when it wants to!!! Possibly due to demons in code; you know how it is 1 Quote
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