Point taken about the sad retirement antics, what a ignominous end for such a capable low level striker, like OJ turning his hand at making ppl laugh but he had a comeback though with his black glove and world famous cop chase; maybe those Pigs could drop a stick of durandals on the race track and run away i reckon they could out run the resulting FA-18 intercept, but seriously though there is a legitimate use for the dump and burn. I had the pleasure of meeting a pilot who flew the vark at an air show near where i live, the RAF training school in Anglesey always had a top class air show years ago and i asked the USAF crew standing by their shiny new F-15e's whether the torching was deliberately used or just a side effect of dumping fuel, the pilot said in his opinion it could have been of use if anyone got close enough for a gun kill even if just for that extra few seconds of distraction, it could save your arse long enough to get out and if the guy doesn't expect it, he might lose his underpant integrity Id love to give it a try on a tail if i ever get one! flying at full burner theres not much chance of finding someones nose that close to your arse to fart at them, but im up for the laugh quality alone. I searched SimHQ forums but i just cant find anything, if anyone else gets it please put up a link on this site. Respeks