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I guess I'am like a case of the ,ahhh well you no,ya can'r get rid of me that easy. Thanks again guys

Thanks guys for replying.I didn't really get the one about the little motor or big motor Fokker but I'am not the brightest bulb in the lamp. Anyway thanks for the encouragement ,and advice about backing everything up,but now that the sim is the way I want it I'am not going to get greedy and try some new mod.I'am too scared!

Forget it ,I did a system restore to the day before, and got my DR1 back. I'll never again try to mod this sim,I have gotten into too much trouble.

Thankyou so much not only for this site in general ,but all the help I've recieved from you guys. You've all gone above and the call of duty to help a newbe.

I even hate to ask this question, because I think it goes against the way Thirdwire works, but is there the slighest chance that for us who are not really modder's at heart but would just like to fly ,that a patch could be made to make addon weapons and new markings for addon planes show up? I know FE is designed for modder's and maybe I have no right to ask this as the game engine won't allow it,but I'd love to be able to easliy(read user friendly) be able to get back my rockets and get new skins and markings to show up,with out a lot of hassle. I don't even know how the weapos editor works and really have no desire to learn . I'am afraid to download any further patches or EP's as I might lose what I have.I still run the old pre EP FM's on the older pre EP planes and am happy with them.They may not be the most accurate but they work for me. I know I'am in the minority here ,but it doesn't look like there's going to be any other WWI sims around for a while except OFF and I'am darned if I'am going to do a six hour download of a whole list of files ,just for part one.Grenich is really dragging their feet and I doubt my computer would run it anyway. So I've vented my frustrations and maybe because of the type of sim it is have no right to,but at 60 I just want to fly and not spend all my time screwing things up. Please don't take this the wrong way,maybe if I don't want to mod I shouldn't be flying FE and I'am happy with what I've got,but was just hopeing for an easyier way to make things like they were pre EP other than install another copy of the sim. Thanks for making a fine sim otherwise and if it has to stay the way it is ,thats ok and I really hope I didn't step on anyones toes as thats not my intention.

Thanks to ravenclaw_007 ,I now have both the AEG and Gotha back with front gunner's for both.

I also lost my front gunner for the Gotha. I tried fixing it by putting the ini. files from the AEG download section. It said to put them in the AEG folder and let them overwrite.I tried but with the Gotha folder, but they were just added to the main Gotha folded without overwritting any thing,and there was no change to the Gotha. I tried deleting the Gotha ini.config and cockpit config.files ,still no luck ,and now for some reason I lost the AEG compleatly. It shows in the Windows Explorer unde object /aircraft but not in the sim. First where do you put the config ini.files for the Gotha and second ,what happened to my AEG? Thanks

You guys are absolutly right,I just guess the older I get the less complicated I want life to be. And in todays world there are almost too many choice's and tecnology is moving at the speed of heat,and this is one thing I don't like .You buy a computer ,find the thing won't run a lot of sims because you have to disable one core of a two core system,or your vidio card turns the sim into an abstract painting and the computer is obsolete the moment you take it out of the store. Then to get the full flight expearance you have to learn about things like weapons paks and editors and ini files and all this good stuff. Like you guys said it all comes down to what your willing to settle for and how much work you want to put in to the sim. Speaking for myself I'am tired of adding this and trying to get something else to work right,all I want to do is fly as realisticly as I can with out working for weeks on a sim. I'am not blameing anyone here it just my opinion and a matter of choice. Guys like you have given us things not dreamed of just a few years ago, I guess I wish things could be simpler ,but thats the price of progress.Maybe I'am just too old .

I guess when I first started flight sims,wih the old comador64 then went to a Dell with CFS1 I had fun, now it's mostly frustration and a technology thats moving way too fast. The games you played yesterday won't work on todays systems (some will but you have to do a lot of tweaking). When you pay the kind of money I've put in computer's, flight sims,and other programs plus the control set up( I have all CH controllers) ,that it should last a lifetime, but your lucky to get five years from a system before it's so outdated that it's no good to anyone anymore. Maybe I"am too old fashioned ,but to me the world of flight simming has all the fun taken out of it.

Just got to thinking , maybe I should explane where I'am coming from, and why I'am not a big modding fan. I've had computer's for about 12 years (ya I even had an old Commador 64)and they had puter's back then in the stone ages. I've had probley at least 8 or more complete computor crashes probley more (you lose count with old age.and ya I know Commador isn't spelled right) Anyway I have eight flight sims and a whole bunch of various war stratagy and a few first person shooter and even two train sims.After the crashes(all for various reasons to numerious to mention) I've had to reinstall every thing Since I save everything to disk now it makes it a little easier but since I've put so much into just the flight sims alone, hundereds of planes missions and scenery it would take me working at least five hours every evening for three to four months to get everything back. Some sims I had to reinstall after some scenery or effects would screwup the whole sim. I never wanted to be a computer programer ,just fly,because airplanes have been my life for as long as I remember(I took lessons in high school but the money ran out before I got my licence) and have flown with friends who flew. So the thing is flight sims (just my opion) have lost sight of their real purpose which is to enable those of us with out the funds(though flight simming ain't cheap as you know) to experiance something of the thrill and history of flight. I know at lot of people enjoy modding for the sake of modding but I've done it to make the experiance more real. OK sorry to vent but it's just I'am tired of haveing months or even years of work ruined because I tried some new thing that screwed up the puter or sim. I guess I'am just tied of what I thought would be enjoyable turn into a nightmare (like the time I put the new Hanriot in and all the assignments said unassigned and I took a chance and did a system restore and it worked ,that time,but that doesn't always work) Now with Vista and dual core prosser's when my computer dies,and I know it will ,I have not a clue as to what to get or what programes will work with what, so this is why I'am considering quiting flight sims and maybe even computer's You guys are the best most friendly and go above and beyond to help,youve worked very hard to make these wonderful sims but I don't have the computer smarts or time to do all the things you have to do to make the sims as realistic as possible. Oh I might decide to hang in there so you might hear from me again on some dumbohead question,but for now I'am giving it a rest. Thanks for letting me get some things of my chest and the last thing I want is ti offend anyone. So thanks again I got some sleep to catch up on,three more years and I can retire,yea.

Thanks guys for the reply,I told you it was a lot to ask and didn't really expect any major changes to the sim just to accomadate those few of us who are not into modding,so I guess I'll go with whats behind door number two,using third party addons and accepting the compatability issues. I think that sooner or later unless somthing drastic technology wise ,happens I'll give up flight sims and go back to reading books about my interests ,at least books don't go obsolete the day you buy them.(at least not yet)

I've noticed that since the expansion pack you can't change ,Squadron markings,Insiginia or numbers(the number never did really work well anyway ,before or since the EP), on the loadout screen. This only happens with certain planes(pre EP?). I tried changng the Neuiport17 C1 to the Lafayette Escadrille 124 on the Squadron Makings pulldown and get a blank fusalage ,now some Esadrille's will give you different numbers on the fuslage sides ,others won't or give the same number's. The numbers pulldown never did seem to work right,you could choose a number and usually end up with a different number than the one you chose. I even tried adding the Lafayette skin to the Nieuport 17 two gun but although it showed up under squadron markings it still gave blank fusalage sides.I even tried different dates as I thought the markings might be date sensitive (kind like the Vosesen terrian,which works no matter if you have random set or not,all depends on the date )The paint scheme always seems to work ,(except in the case of the Lafayette skin that I tried to add to the Nieuport.) I'am debating if I should even add the next EP as I've lost some weapons and now the ability to change some makings. I know the Insignia always worked before the EP as I could chance from the French to Russian air Service on the Nieuport before and think I could even bring up the Lafayette Indian head on the sides ,but I'am not sure. I hate the thought of loseing more weapons and makings with a new EP ,now that at least I have bombs. All the stock planes markings seem to work but addon planes is a hit and miss thing.So I'am very doubtful about adding any new EP's as you chance loseing so much.

Wow, A lot more complicated than I thought.I thought that if you ,say, down loaded the skin for the 124 Escadrille Lafayette from Combat Aces for the Nieuport two gun , followed the instructions ,which I did with the two gun Nieuport (even though with the EP I only have a phantom top gun) Then the Indian head would show up ,because 124 Lafayette showed up under paint schemes but not on the planes. I can only get random numbers to show on the planes, seems like there's no rhyme or reason to the number's usually their not the ones you pick. Anyway I took out the two gun but kept the stanard 17C1.The stock planes seem to work ok I'am trying to simplify my life not make it more complicated.Which is why I'am afraid to install any further updates, I lost my rockets and gernades but got my bombs back and I'd hate to lose those. Thanks for the advice and reply ,hope you had a good Easter.

Right on jarhead I get too impatient ,sorry, I posted Saturday but this is Easter weekend

Is there anyone who knows why the makings won't show up?Anyone?Earth to Combat ace forums, am I the only one here? Oh I forgot ,Happy Easter!

I'am looking for a WW1 flight sim that will run on my system and also have all the planes avaible that you can fly.My computer specs are ,a Dell Demension 8250 ,Pentium 4@2.80 GHZ,I'5 GB rdram a128 mb ATI Radon pro graphic card ,two 200 GiG hard drives@ 7200 rpm, a DVD + R ,CD RW combo drive. I can't afford a new compiter right now,and I never play online.As of now what I see are OFF ,a six hour download,(no way) the upcoming Knights of the Sky from Grennich ,which I don't think my graphics card will run.and First Eagles which only has three planes ,though I understand there are a lot of addons,but are these planes flyable? I'am no computer wize though my computer can run CFS1,CFS2,CFS3 ,PF+AEP+IL2 ,FS9 and finally BOBII WOP,with little trouble. It seems like First Eagles is good but you have to download the aircraft you want and I don't know if these are flyable or AI. If the planes are avalble where can I get them ?I looked at CapunSkunkworks but tried twice to register but failed both times and I don't need the aggrativation of begging to get on this site. So what would you recomend?Are there any I might have missed ? Thanks if you managed to read through this ,but I need some expert advice.

I know the new weapons editor is out ,but I'don't know how it works and don't have the time or desire to go through all the addon planes that the new patch has taken the weapons away from. Will there ever be a patch or addon to bring these weapons (such as the rockets and extra guns and bomb loads) back ? I really don't want to do a bunch more work to bring back the sim to the state is was before the patch. I guess I'am lazy, but wish there was some kind of exe.file to just restore the weapons. Thanks

Someone sent me their weapons folder,after I put it in all my weopens worked. Not sure If I want to go through all this for some small bombs and rockets and gernades, oh and the wing gun for the two gun nieuport. But I might get ambitious some day . Any way , well you know the drill ,simply thankyou so much.

OK told ya I'd update you after I got rested up. This strikes me as strange although maybe you will understand why. First I tried to find the plane names for which I don't have addon weapons, , the Nieuports and maybe a few other's by extracting the file or just looking for them in the Ojects Data CAT file and Objects Data1 Cat file but couldn't find them to do any renaming. Then I extracted the Data Dat. file and the Weapons Data INI from the Objects Data CAT and put them back into my weapons folder ,and no difference. I still have everything but rockets ( which I understand I'd have to install the new Spad rockets to get) ,the small bombs for the Gotha,I have the other two types of bombs , the wing gun for the two gun Nieuport, and any addon gernades ,I have them for all the new planes. Then I took out the whole weapons file and it made no difference,still had the weapons I had before but not the one's I mentioned. So I put the weapons file back(if I left it out ,where would I put any new weapons for any other addon planes I might add, not that they would work,but I thought it isn't hurting anything by being there so may as well leave it in. So bottom line is no matter what I did,I have the weapons ,I got back when I took out the Data Dat and weapons INI files , in the first place and they still work even with the same type files I put in from the Objects Data file. Does any of this make sense?Also I hope I explained it well enough for you to understand what I did. So I'am leaving well enough alone now and just be glad for the weapons I got back. I'am not about to do a complete reinstall ,unless it becomes a major problem. Thanks for the zillionth time.

I gotta take a break for a while, ,I'am not sure if I want to continue trying or just be happy with what I,ve got. If I decide to try what you said , I'll let you know. Thanks again(you must be tired of me thanking you but it's the only way to thankyou for putting up with me.

Just found I have gernades for all the new planes but not the older addon ones.

OK deleting those two files from my weapons folder gave me bombs, no gernades or rockets or the top wing gun on the Nieuport two gun.(I checked out the new Spad rockets and it seemed like much more than I want to tackle.) So at least now I have bombs to rain terror on the Hun. Thankyou for sticking with me

OK by using the SFpie utility I found ini files but they were for the stock planes ,no weapons. Someone a long while back before the first addon gave me a weapons file and after that everything worked. After the patch only the new planes had addon weapons. After I reinstalled the EP , none of the addon weapons worked ,new or old,I don't know if I had an ini file in the weapons pack that was sent to me or not,but I see nothing that says INI there now. So since I still have guns I can shoot hell out of those pesky Germans ,but their safe from bombs ,rockets and gernades,so rather than spend a weeek reinstalling the whole sim ,and that might not even work ,we've spent enough time and effort to get me addon weapons so let's forget the whole thing for now,unless someone has a brainstorm thats really simple. Thanks to everyone for all your trouble.

For that matter whats a INI file?is it the same as the weapons config file or the Data dat files which I have(although can't open the Data Dat file,it is just a bunch of scrambled letters and even note pad or any program I have will not open it.) If I need an ini file where do I get it? Also someone said somthing about editing the weapons file ,what do I edit?